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Originally Posted by turnandshoot4

I guess what I would like to see is a limiting of government power. History shows that we have lost rights slowly over time.

A while back in this thread we had a Gulf war vet, Blue Tile Spook, talk about fighting with honor. Was that post lost? Did no one read it? How is fighting with honor, no matter how hard it is, lost? Is it only instilled in our servicemen and women?

The scary thing is "terrorism" is a blanket word that can be applied to anyone. Just like communism. Please go torture terrorism. Please go hit terrorism in the face. You can't. And this war on terrorism will never end. Rather it went from war with eurasia to eastasia. I mean from communism to terrorism. The point is ANYONE can be a terrorist. Therefore anyone can be tortured. Including an American citizen.

"Fighting with honor."

The French fought with "honor" at Agincourt and Crecy. There's no "honor" in extinction. And there's no honor in letting thousands of civilians die horribly because of squeamishness.

If they're willing to play nice, I'm willing to play nice.

If they insist on war to the knife. I'll give them war to the knife.

Frankly, we do play a lot nicer than they do. They count on it, in fact. If we were to actually play by the RIFs (note: shorthand for Radical Islamic Fundamentalist--not a term for all muslims) rules, the response to 9/11 would have been glow-in-the-dark glass parking lots at Medina and Mecca.

Frankly, if we played by their rules we'd be a whole lot better at it.

It is said that one should pick one's enemies carefully because sooner or later you'll become just like them. Unfortunately, that only works when you get to pick your enemies. We didn't pick Radical Islam as an enemy, they picked us. And they should remember the converse. Sooner or later, the enemy you pick may become just like you.

Recommended reading: "A Desert Called Peace" by Tom Kratman and John Ringo's essay on Option Zero