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Originally Posted by turnandshoot4  I guess what I would like to see is a limiting of government power. History shows that we have lost rights slowly over time.
A while back in this thread we had a Gulf war vet, Blue Tile Spook, talk about fighting with honor. Was that post lost? Did no one read it? How is fighting with honor, no matter how hard it is, lost? Is it only instilled in our servicemen and women?
The scary thing is "terrorism" is a blanket word that can be applied to anyone. Just like communism. Please go torture terrorism. Please go hit terrorism in the face. You can't. And this war on terrorism will never end. Rather it went from war with eurasia to eastasia. I mean from communism to terrorism. The point is ANYONE can be a terrorist. Therefore anyone can be tortured. Including an American citizen. |
But if you don't give up a couple little rights this instant the 'government' can't protect you right now. Don't worry, you'll get them back as soon as the danger has passed. Of course you'll need to give up a few more rights for future protections...and you probably won't ever get back those original rights either; but you will be SAFE, and that is what counts, right?
There is always danger and there will always be an enemy. How can we call them the savages, terrorists, bad guys if we act just as savagly. How can we preach to others that we are the good guys when we torture people in the back ground? War is more than just guys, guns, and bombs. War is in our hearts, and our minds; if we can't win over people mentally and emotionally it will never matter how many 'enemies' we destroy, the next generation will just pick up where the old one left off because we proved to them that we were the 'evil ones'.
Torture like water boarding MAY give us short term advantages (even that is a gamble), but it will only lead to failure in the long term.