Review: iDryfire Laser Target System (iPhone/iPad/iPod app)

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  • Jtgarner

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    Okay guys, I saw the following video a few weeks ago and thought "Dang! That would be sweet to have in my house! Too bad I am fresh out of college and still paying for the wife's school and could never afford something this cool. :("

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lML77YMGelU

    As some of you know, I have a SIRT (review of that here) and I dry fire practice with it regularly. I wasn't really looking for anything like this, mostly because I didn't know it existed. The program in the video seems to use a computer with a camera to see where your shots hit and make the targets react. The whole set up in the video probably costs one billion majillion dollars which is a little more than I make in a lifetime so its not going to happen.

    Enter iDryfire Laser Target System, an app for the iPhone/iPad/iPod touch (if it has a camera). The app costs $12.99 in the iTunes app store. That is pretty steep for me, but since it was from the same guys who made the program in the video above (iMarksman), I figured I'd try it. I mean, it costs less than a meal at the local Applebee's so I just didn't eat dinner that night.

    I'm too poor to have one of those fancy iPads, so this review is using my iPhone 4S.

    The app starts up and has this home screen:
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    When you hit start it opens your camera and your point your camera at any target on your wall. When you have the target where you want it in your camera you can hit start at the top left. If the target area is too bright it won't let you start so I had to turn off the overhead light and just have other lights in the room on. When the lighting was right I was able to start and the app counted down from three.

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    When the count down is over the app beeps (unless you have your phone on vibrate) and a timer starts. When the app notices a change in lighting on the screen (from the SIRT) it stops and takes a screen shot of the shot placement. The screen looks like this:

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    You then have the option to save the shot (unfortunately it does not save showing your time :( ). The save screens look like this (this is from the same shot):

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    You can then hit start and start again.

    The app can help you train to speed up your draw and first shot time and improve on your shot placement.
    If you know the size of your target and the distance you are shooting from it you can calculate the simulated distance on full size targets.
    This is a target I shot from a simulated 18 yards (54 feet) from an AIWB holster with no concealment. Best head shot time and best a zone time:

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    (photo edited with another app)

    The app can also show you if you are jerking the trigger or doing a solid press to the rear. This is an example I made the other day with the app to show this feature:

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    (photo edited with another app)

    Also, if you practice with a weapons mounted light and you turn it on it will blind the camera and activate the screen shot

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    Overall Impressions:

    Cons:
    Kinda pricey for an app, at almost $13.00
    Only records the first shot
    Start delay is set at 3 seconds and gets predictable
    Lighting has to be just right for the app to work
    Distance the camera has to be to the target can have you running all the way across the room a lot in order to practice longer ranges
    "Save" feature doesn't save times

    Pros:
    Immediate feedback on where your sights were when you pressed the trigger
    Immediate feedback on trigger control (jerking or not)
    Ability to screen shot and save time with target to keep records of best times
    iMarksman has mentioned releasing it for android and then doing an update with more features (possibly for more $$ though :( )
    Cheap practice (at the prices of today I'm saving at least $.30 every time I pull the trigger, not to mention range fees, gas to get there, timer apps, targets, etc)

    Overall I am happy that I went hungry for a night and bought this app. I think it is, and will continue to be, an asset to my training in this liberal hippy town that has no public range :D
    With some sort of attached camera lens and a tripod you are supposed to be able to set up your phone across the room and still be able to see the target with the camera. I decided I was too poor to afford that and too hungry to skip another meal so I didn't get any of that stuff and instead had caviar delivered to my pent house and ate it while drinking Glenn Levitt 12 year ;)
    :ingo:

    EDIT:
    Not my video, but a good walk through of how to use the app:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RcHHPXojPyc
     
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    Double T

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    I am confused a bit here, and perhaps you can clarify...

    Is this target displayed on your phone's screen, or is this a printed target that you point the camera too?

    I am putting a SIRT on my xmas list. Doubt I will get it though.
     

    Jtgarner

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    It is a printed target that you point your camera at. I will edit to clarify.

    You can use any target you want. This is a 9" tall IPSC/IDPA target (depending on the side I have facing out) on a piece of cardboard.
     

    Jtgarner

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    Since I do not own a SIRT, I would just need the app and a laser cartridge correct?

    Yes, and if you are shooting a striker fired or single action only gun, you will get everything you can from the app how it is now.

    The trigger on the SIRT resets so you can "fire" multiple times without resetting the firing pin/hammer/striker, etc. That is why I am hoping for an update that records multiple shots.
     

    JMWetzel89

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    App looks like it could be worth the money. Do you have to have Internet access to run the app? I have very poor cell phone service at my. House and nothing that needs three or 4g will work there.
     

    Jtgarner

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    Nope, no internet required. Could technically run on a phone/ipod/ipad that is unable to connect to the internet as long as you could plug it in to a computer to download the app.
     

    Jtgarner

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    12/20/13

    Wanted to do an update. There were a few updates to the app that I think greatly improve it's usefulness and I wanted to let everyone know how those updates look and function.

    First there was an update shortly after I wrote the first review that added the date, time of day, and shot time to the screen shots when it took them. That update alto made the start delay time random between 3 and 5 seconds. Then, not long ago there was another update that allowed for multiple shots (so to speak). There is now an option to have the app automatically reset with a random start time and automatically save your shots. Right now the app will only run for 20 seconds and then it crashes and you have to restart it (hopefully will be fixed in the next update). The cool thing is that while the app is running for those 20 seconds, when the buzzer goes off and you take a shot it will be automatically saved to your photos (with the time stamp information) and the random start delay will restart. When the buzzer goes off again, you have another shot that will automatically save to your photos. I am usually able to get in about 8-10 shots (apparently it doesn't count the delay time as part of the 20 seconds) before the app crashes. This is nice because there is so much less time wasted running from one side of the room to the other to reset the app after each shot.
    I am hoping that they will do another update that fixes this and allows for longer times, but I am still really liking the app.

    Here are my updated pros and cons:
    Cons:
    Kinda pricey for an app, at almost $13.00 (I am really starting to see this as null, since I have gotten so much training in with it)
    Only records one shot at a time, so no double taps
    Start delay shows up on screen, so I am still finding myself jumping the gun (pun intended) because I know when the buzzer will sound
    Lighting has to be just right for the app to work

    Pros:
    Immediate feedback on where your sights were when you pressed the trigger
    Immediate feedback on trigger control (jerking or not)
    App automatically saves time on the screen shot to keep records of best times and progression over time
    All updates have been FREE!
    Cheap practice (at the prices of today I'm saving at least $.30 every time I pull the trigger, not to mention range fees, gas to get there, timer apps, targets, etc)
    Can have app run and take multiple screen shots without having to run all the way across the room after each shot
     

    IndyGunSafety

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    We are a SIRT dealer AND and iMarksman dealer. So we have the full iMarksman simulator here at the shop. But I spend countless hours using my iPad pointed at a wall target and using my iDryfire app. The app is limited but you can make the best of it by mixing in different holsters, grips stances, cover,etc.
     

    Jtgarner

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    Another update on this app. It has been out for a few weeks or so (I think), but I have been super busy and haven't had time to do a formal review. Today I had a snow day, so I decided to shoot a couple videos to showcase this little app and the way it works now.

    First up is a short video I did to show the interface and operations of the app (forgive the cell phone video quality):
    [video=youtube_share;vozovagWc_U]http://youtu.be/vozovagWc_U[/video]


     
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    Jtgarner

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    Next is a video of the app in action trying a few drills. I was using the 10-8 dry fire target (found here) at about 4 yards. I did two strings on each size target to demonstrate the app in action:
    [video=youtube_share;oKazXpvKqfQ]http://youtu.be/oKazXpvKqfQ[/video]

    Overall, I REALLY like this app and have no qualms with the price I paid for it now.

    Updated pros/cons:

    Cons:
    Occasionally misses shots (could be my fault and not the app)
    Lighting has to be just right for the app to work
    Stops training session if you accidentally shoot more shots then you have it set up for

    Pros:
    Immediate feedback on where your sights were when you pressed the trigger
    Automatically saves targets with times to keep records of best times
    All the updates have been free!
    Cheap practice (at the prices of today I'm saving at least $.30 every time I pull the trigger, not to mention range fees, gas to get there, timer apps, targets, etc)
    Cool sound effects
    Can be adjusted to record anywhere from 1 to 4 shots at a time
     
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