7.62x54 question

[colt45er]

Alright, I bougth my Mosin last night and now it is time to buy some surplus ammo. I am looking at the catalog from SOG and from what I understand I can order ammo from them without having a FFL.

First off if that is incorrect please correct me.

My question for the ammo is, is there are difference in 7.62x54 and 7.62x54r? Does it have to have the R?

SOG has 7.62x54r Romanian 300rd Tin for $44.95
They have 7.62-54R Bulgarian 440 rd for $72.60
They have 7.62x54 Czech silvertip 440 for $87.78


Would any of those work in my Mosin? Which are best the silvertips?

Would the romanian work well?

[Disposable Heart]

The R is inconsequential. As far as the best stuff there: If the Romanian is the Hotshot stuff, its pretty darn good. Bulgarian (if the brasscased) is stupid awesome, as the brass does not have laquer on it to gum up after repeated shots and is accurate for milsurp. I would probably go for the Bulgy as it is probably the best of all the aforementioned. I have never like Czech anything, silvertip also.

[colt45er]

i am thinking about staying away form the Czech just because it is more $

The Romanian jsut says, "Packed in 10Rd. bundles/300rd. Tins. Full megal jacket. #AMO-76254300"

The Bulgarian says," Bulgarian production, steel core, non-corrosive. #AMO-76254RB"

Romanian figures down to 14.9 cents per round.

Bulgarian is 16.5 cents per round

prices are not including shipping.

[Clay]

One thing to note: Go to the SOG website, fill out their Ammunition Waiver, and fax it w/ a copy of your drivers license to SOG. They will not even talk to you about ammo until they have this in their system. Ask me how I know!

[Disposable Heart]

If it is listed as steel core, Bulgarian and its in bulk for that cheap, I can guarantee it is corrosive. All that ammo should be treated as such, unless it is new manufacture!!!!11!!

[dburkhead]

Originally Posted by Disposable Heart

If it is listed as steel core, Bulgarian and its in bulk for that cheap, I can guarantee it is corrosive. All that ammo should be treated as such, unless it is new manufacture!!!!11!!

Corrosive is not really a big problem so long as you flushe the barrel with lots of hot water (I use about 2 quarts) every time you shoot it.

We're not talking about high molar acid here abut about salts that will eat into the metal if left over time.

[Disposable Heart]

Originally Posted by dburkhead

Corrosive is not really a big problem so long as you flushe the barrel with lots of hot water (I use about 2 quarts) every time you shoot it.

We're not talking about high molar acid here abut about salts that will eat into the metal if left over time.

Thats a given, but does the ad not state it as Non-corrosive?

[dburkhead]

Originally Posted by Disposable Heart

Thats a given, but does the ad not state it as Non-corrosive?

My pardon. I misunderstood your point (haven't really been following this thread closely).

[karlsgunbunker]

Originally Posted by colt45er

Alright, I bougth my Mosin last night and now it is time to buy some surplus ammo. I am looking at the catalog from SOG and from what I understand I can order ammo from them without having a FFL.

First off if that is incorrect please correct me.

My question for the ammo is, is there are difference in 7.62x54 and 7.62x54r? Does it have to have the R?

SOG has 7.62x54r Romanian 300rd Tin for $44.95
They have 7.62-54R Bulgarian 440 rd for $72.60
They have 7.62x54 Czech silvertip 440 for $87.78


Would any of those work in my Mosin? Which are best the silvertips?

Would the romanian work well?

x54 and x54r are the same ammo.
The r is for Rimmed.

All of the ammo listed will work well in your Mosin.

I usually buy the cheapest ammo available.
Prices vary due to availability.
When a new shipment comes in it's cheap as it runs out it gets more expensive.

Czech Silver tip is reputed to be very good.
I'm still working through my Russian and Bulgarian (open cans), Haven't gotten to the Czech, may take a few years to get to it.

[smokingman]

Originally Posted by dburkhead

Corrosive is not really a big problem so long as you flushe the barrel with lots of hot water (I use about 2 quarts) every time you shoot it.

We're not talking about high molar acid here abut about salts that will eat into the metal if left over time.

Windex...yes the real stuff you clean your windows with,is what rinse my nagants with before i even leave the range.It is the ammonia that negates the salts.It is much better at preventing the pitting than just water. I do not recall where I got the advise from,but it has worked for 9 years or so.So before you leave the range clean it or use windex...it buys you time(a day or two)before you MUST clean the rifle. Even the non-corrosive powder for any 7.62x54r is corrosive by all modern standards. So even if it says non-corrosive you have to clean/stop the rust. Windex is easy and works until I get time to do a real cleaning.