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  • joshuamckee

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    GOLDN SABER & GOLD DOT 380 AMMO

    I did a penetration test by lining up six one gallon milk jugs filled with water and shooting them with all types of 380 ammo using a p3at.The golden saber 102Gr. and the gold dot 90 Gr. did the most damage.The golden saber made it to jug #4 and expanded perfectly it left a hole about the size of a half dollar threw three of the jugs and stopped in the fourth about half way threw.The gold dot made it to jug #three and made the first jug blow up and the second jug had a large hole all the way threw ans the third had a hole about the size of a quarter in the front and the bullet made contact with the back of the jug but did not go threw it also expanded perfectly.I don't know if this is helpful to any one but i thought i would share it with you:)
     

    Bubbajms

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    This may be a question better suited to a new thread, but here goes..

    Is there a quick way to tell what ammo I have?? It came with the handgun - it's a .380 hollowpoint, and the stamping on the casing says "F C .380 Auto"
     

    Disposable Heart

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    Bubba, does it have a post in the center of the HP? If so, its the Hydrashock, 90grainer, great ammo.

    If not, could be the old hi-shok ammo which was decent, but replaced/relagated to "value" ammo when Hydrashock and HST came out. Either way, its Federal (FC)
     

    Disposable Heart

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    The OPs Golden Sabres are awesome in .380s, but one must take care, checking to see if they function in their gun. While they have a ball profile, they are long and seated out farther, which may be an issue in some guns. I carry Golds in my P3AT, both Sabres and Dots. :D

    Incidentally, the 102gr component Golden Sabre bullet for handloading is a riot. Load it hot in a 9x19 situation, you have a killer carbine load or a low penetration handgun loading, penetrating deeper than a 90gr Sierra Powerjacket as the Golden hold's itself together for a little longer (but still fragments, unlike it's heavier cousins that have jacket separation in higher velo loads). My only thing about Goldens is I would not use them in .357 Sig or heavier projectile weights in HOT 9mm. They separate from the jacket (Remington wont let us have the bonded ones for handloading fun :( ).
     

    KokomoDave

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    I bought 50 boxes of the 102 GoldenSaber from Duane @ CNC Cartridge Co but have yet to shoot any of it.It looks like good stuff.I like to use it in a 9mm with a silencer as it has enough zing to kill but not enough to cycle the slide and make more noise.
     

    Crystalship1

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    Ive always been told to use FMJ in a .380 to insure it penetrates enough through the badguys clothes . Is the BS or what ?

    See for yourself :

    Here's a fairly comprehensive list of links to .380 Caliber Ammunition Tests. Have Fun!!!
    Some links may require user registration.
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    Many .380 and other caliber tests.
    OG Wet Pack, Ballistic and Ammunition Testing Data

    OG & Friend's Ballistic Test Results
    The Kel-Tec Range Articles

    2d Gen P-3AT Analysis Part 2 (includes wet pack test)
    http://www.ktrange.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=4534&view=next&sid=4935fca fa65b7bfa384953776a49d0df

    The Last Crusade - .380 Wet Pack Test
    The Kel-Tec Range :: View topic - The Last Crusade

    mouseguns.com - Ammunition and Ballistics
    Ammunition and Ballistics at mouseguns.com
    Scroll down to the .380 section.

    The Box O' Truth #26 - Little Guns vs. The Box O' Truth
    The Box O' Truth #26 - Little Guns vs. The Box O' Truth - Page 1

    Ballistic gelatin testing results : .32NAA 90 grain Sierra JHC
    Ballistic gelatin testing results : .32NAA 90 grain Sierra JHC - THR

    DPX/Gold Dot Raccoon test.
    KTOG Forum - DPX/Gold Dot Raccoon test.

    Head-to-head test: DPX vs. Ranger-T
    KTOG Forum - Head-to-head test: DPX vs. Ranger-T

    MONSTER WET NEWS MULTI-GUN-TEST
    KTOG Forum - MONSTER WET NEWS MULTI-GUN-TEST

    P3AT CHEAP JHP WETPACK TEST
    KTOG Forum - P3AT CHEAP JHP WETPACK TEST

    Smilies and Wet Newspaper Test
    KTOG Forum - Smilies and Wet Newspaper Test

    Wet Newspaper Test: Corbon DPX .380 HP
    KTOG Forum - Wet Newspaper Test: Corbon DPX .380 HP

    Wet Newspaper Test: Santa Barbara 87g.
    KTOG Forum - Wet Newspaper Test: Santa Barbara 87g.

    Wetpack Test: DPX, GD, GS, Ranger-T, etc.
    KTOG Forum - Wetpack Test: DPX, GD, GS, Ranger-T, etc.

    WINTER/SUMMER WETPACK TEST DONE
    KTOG Forum - WINTER/SUMMER WETPACK TEST DONE

    Fly&Og Revisit DPX with GS, GD, and more!!
    http://www.ktrange.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=5320&postdays=0&postorder= asc&start=0

    More Smiley Tests with a 1G P3AT
    http://www.ktrange.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=5725&start=0&postdays=0&am p;postorder=asc&highlight=

    Smileys Revisited
    http://www.ktrange.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=5416&postdays=0&postorder= asc&start=0

    THE FLY AND OG .380 DPX WETPACK TEST WITH 4 PISTOLS!!
    http://www.ktrange.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=5183&start=0&postdays=0&am p;postorder=asc&highlight=

    Cor-Bon .380 DPX "Wet Pack" test with LWS380
    The L.W. Seecamp Company Forum - Cor Bon .380 DPX "Wet Pack" test with LWS380  

    .380 ammo testing--DPX / GOLDEN SABRE / GOLD DOT
    The L.W. Seecamp Company Forum - .380 ammo testing-DPX-GOLDEN SABRE-GOLD DOT

    Cartridge Performance: .380 ACP
    Bersa Thunder 380 Chapterhouse

    Selecting a .380 Cartridge
    Bersa Thunder 380 Chapterhouse

    Bersa Thunder .380 with Cor-Bon 80-gr. DPX Ammunition
    http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/Bersa Thunder.htm

    Brassfetcher .380 ACP Tests
    http://www.brassfetcher.com/380ACP.html

    Cor-Bon .380 70 gr PowRBall
    StoppingPower.net Forums - Corbon .380 70 gr PowRBall

    Cor-Bon .380 80 gr DPX
    StoppingPower.net Forums - Corbon .380 80 gr DPX

    .380 ACP at StevesPages
    terminal 380 acp

    Preliminary .380 wet pack report for your amusement
    The Kel-Tec Range ::

    Gel test today!
    KTOG Forum - Gel test today!

    .380 Ammunition & Barrel Lengths at recguns.com
    rec.guns FAQ: IV.G.10. .380 Ammunition & Barrel Lengths

    UMC JHP/ AE FMJ ACCURACY SHOOT OFF
    KTOG Forum - UMC JHP/ AE FMJ ACCURACY SHOOT OFF

    .380ACP Federal Hydrashok in gelatin
    Ballistic gelatin testing results : .380ACP Federal Hydrashok - TheFiringLine Forums

    Corbon DPX .380 into newsprint
    KTOG Forum - Corbon DPX .380 into newsprint

    Cor-Bon DPX .380 in Ham
    KTOG Forum - Corbon vs. Hydro shok, recoil difference?
    See reply #4

    Ballistics data - 7 hollow point velocities
    KTOG Forum - Ballistics data - 7 hollow point velocities

    9mm Versus .380 ACP For Self-Defense
    9mm Versus .380 ACP For Self-Defense

    Test Results: The effect of moisture on .380 ammo
    KTOG Forum - Test Results: The effect of moisture on .380 ammo

    Dan334’s .380 ACP and 9 mm Para DPX water jug test
    KTOG Forum - Newbie w/ammo question
    See reply #9

    .380 ACP Hornady 90gr XTP JHP (Beretta 85)
    .380 ACP Hornady 90gr XTP JHP (Beretta 85)

    .380 ACP Winchester 95gr Supreme SXT JHP (Beretta 85)
    .380 ACP Winchester 95gr Supreme SXT JHP (Beretta 85)

    Double-Tap .380acp GDHP wetpack test
    KTOG Forum - Double-Tap .380acp GDHP wetpack test

    Sweet! Double Tap .380!
    http://handgunsandammo.proboards36.com/index.cgi?board=calibers&action=displ ay&thread=1184702603

    .380 Gelatin Tests by John Farnam and Cor-Bon’s Mike Shovel
    John Farnam's Quips - 10Apr06.html

    Wetpack test: Fiocchi XTP JHP, etc. (DT_Willy)
    KTOG Forum - Wetpack test: Fiocchi XTP JHP, etc.

    Gello tests we did here
    StoppingPower.net Forums - Gello tests we did here.

    Why DoubleTap looks good
    Why DoubleTap looks good
     

    Crystalship1

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    Ive always been told to use FMJ in a .380 to insure it penetrates enough through the badguys clothes . Is the BS or what ?

    See for yourself :

    Here's a fairly comprehensive list of links to .380 Caliber Ammunition Tests. Have Fun!!!
    Some links may require user registration.
    =========================================

    Many .380 and other caliber tests.
    OG Wet Pack, Ballistic and Ammunition Testing Data

    OG & Friend's Ballistic Test Results
    The Kel-Tec Range Articles

    2d Gen P-3AT Analysis Part 2 (includes wet pack test)
    http://www.ktrange.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=4534&view=next&sid=4935fca fa65b7bfa384953776a49d0df

    The Last Crusade - .380 Wet Pack Test
    The Kel-Tec Range :: View topic - The Last Crusade

    mouseguns.com - Ammunition and Ballistics
    Ammunition and Ballistics at mouseguns.com
    Scroll down to the .380 section.

    The Box O' Truth #26 - Little Guns vs. The Box O' Truth
    The Box O' Truth #26 - Little Guns vs. The Box O' Truth - Page 1

    Ballistic gelatin testing results : .32NAA 90 grain Sierra JHC
    Ballistic gelatin testing results : .32NAA 90 grain Sierra JHC - THR

    DPX/Gold Dot Raccoon test.
    KTOG Forum - DPX/Gold Dot Raccoon test.

    Head-to-head test: DPX vs. Ranger-T
    KTOG Forum - Head-to-head test: DPX vs. Ranger-T

    MONSTER WET NEWS MULTI-GUN-TEST
    KTOG Forum - MONSTER WET NEWS MULTI-GUN-TEST

    P3AT CHEAP JHP WETPACK TEST
    KTOG Forum - P3AT CHEAP JHP WETPACK TEST

    Smilies and Wet Newspaper Test
    KTOG Forum - Smilies and Wet Newspaper Test

    Wet Newspaper Test: Corbon DPX .380 HP
    KTOG Forum - Wet Newspaper Test: Corbon DPX .380 HP

    Wet Newspaper Test: Santa Barbara 87g.
    KTOG Forum - Wet Newspaper Test: Santa Barbara 87g.

    Wetpack Test: DPX, GD, GS, Ranger-T, etc.
    KTOG Forum - Wetpack Test: DPX, GD, GS, Ranger-T, etc.

    WINTER/SUMMER WETPACK TEST DONE
    KTOG Forum - WINTER/SUMMER WETPACK TEST DONE

    Fly&Og Revisit DPX with GS, GD, and more!!
    http://www.ktrange.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=5320&postdays=0&postorder= asc&start=0

    More Smiley Tests with a 1G P3AT
    http://www.ktrange.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=5725&start=0&postdays=0&am p;postorder=asc&highlight=

    Smileys Revisited
    http://www.ktrange.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=5416&postdays=0&postorder= asc&start=0

    THE FLY AND OG .380 DPX WETPACK TEST WITH 4 PISTOLS!!
    http://www.ktrange.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=5183&start=0&postdays=0&am p;postorder=asc&highlight=

    Cor-Bon .380 DPX "Wet Pack" test with LWS380
    The L.W. Seecamp Company Forum - Cor Bon .380 DPX "Wet Pack" test with LWS380 *

    .380 ammo testing--DPX / GOLDEN SABRE / GOLD DOT
    The L.W. Seecamp Company Forum - .380 ammo testing-DPX-GOLDEN SABRE-GOLD DOT

    Cartridge Performance: .380 ACP
    Bersa Thunder 380 Chapterhouse

    Selecting a .380 Cartridge
    Bersa Thunder 380 Chapterhouse

    Bersa Thunder .380 with Cor-Bon 80-gr. DPX Ammunition
    http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/Bersa%20Thunder.htm

    Brassfetcher .380 ACP Tests
    .380ACP

    Cor-Bon .380 70 gr PowRBall
    StoppingPower.net Forums - Corbon .380 70 gr PowRBall

    Cor-Bon .380 80 gr DPX
    StoppingPower.net Forums - Corbon .380 80 gr DPX

    .380 ACP at StevesPages
    terminal 380 acp

    Preliminary .380 wet pack report for your amusement
    The Kel-Tec Range ::

    Gel test today!
    KTOG Forum - Gel test today!

    .380 Ammunition & Barrel Lengths at recguns.com
    rec.guns FAQ: IV.G.10. .380 Ammunition & Barrel Lengths

    UMC JHP/ AE FMJ ACCURACY SHOOT OFF
    KTOG Forum - UMC JHP/ AE FMJ ACCURACY SHOOT OFF

    .380ACP Federal Hydrashok in gelatin
    Ballistic gelatin testing results : .380ACP Federal Hydrashok - TheFiringLine Forums

    Corbon DPX .380 into newsprint
    KTOG Forum - Corbon DPX .380 into newsprint

    Cor-Bon DPX .380 in Ham
    KTOG Forum - Corbon vs. Hydro shok, recoil difference?
    See reply #4

    Ballistics data - 7 hollow point velocities
    KTOG Forum - Ballistics data - 7 hollow point velocities

    9mm Versus .380 ACP For Self-Defense
    9mm Versus .380 ACP For Self-Defense

    Test Results: The effect of moisture on .380 ammo
    KTOG Forum - Test Results: The effect of moisture on .380 ammo

    Dan334’s .380 ACP and 9 mm Para DPX water jug test
    KTOG Forum - Newbie w/ammo question
    See reply #9

    .380 ACP Hornady 90gr XTP JHP (Beretta 85)
    .380 ACP Hornady 90gr XTP JHP (Beretta 85)

    .380 ACP Winchester 95gr Supreme SXT JHP (Beretta 85)
    .380 ACP Winchester 95gr Supreme SXT JHP (Beretta 85)

    Double-Tap .380acp GDHP wetpack test
    KTOG Forum - Double-Tap .380acp GDHP wetpack test

    Sweet! Double Tap .380!
    http://handgunsandammo.proboards36.com/index.cgi?board=calibers&action=displ ay&thread=1184702603

    .380 Gelatin Tests by John Farnam and Cor-Bon’s Mike Shovel
    John Farnam's Quips - 10Apr06.html

    Wetpack test: Fiocchi XTP JHP, etc. (DT_Willy)
    KTOG Forum - Wetpack test: Fiocchi XTP JHP, etc.

    Gello tests we did here
    StoppingPower.net Forums - Gello tests we did here.

    Why DoubleTap looks good
    Why DoubleTap looks good
     

    Bronsonbull

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    good cheap .380 ammo

    FWIW, samcoglobal.com is a great place for .380 ammo (they refer to it as 9mm Browning Short).

    They have really nice mil surplus ammo made in Finland for $47 per 250. This stuff is very very nice. Clean brass and shoots hard and very clean.

    I just bought another 500 rounds. Order by phone and not by their website (you'll get it faster).
     

    mrw

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    Any local sources for the Golden Saber ammo?

    I also carry Golden Sabres. Best bang for the buck (no pun intended). If I had to rank them, and money was no object, #1 would be Corbon DPX, #2 HST (do they make HST in .380?), #3 Remington Golden Sabre.
     

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