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    Plinker
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    For the sake of the sport of target shooting, would you please quit buying up all the 22LR ammo and flipping it at inflated prices.
    You will never be able to live off the profits in early retirement. C'mon, be a good citizen instead of a POS gouger!
     

    ljk

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    Capitalism: supply and demand. I don't blame them for trying to make some money in a free market. I just don't buy from them, let them stuck with all the ammo. the supply is good from what I can tell, I get there earlier than the flippers beat them at their own game. I'd recommend you do the same thing instead of all pissed off.

    I've sold some 22's to INGO members at my cost from Walmart just couple weeks ago. keep looking.
     

    WyldeShot

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    My dad was at Bass Pro and saw someone there that he knew. This guy was there buying ammo. The guy told my dad that he and about 4 other people work for a guy that has tables at gun shows. The guy that my dad knows visits Bass Pro, Cabelas and WalMarts around the area since he has the delivery schedule and buys as much ammo as they will let him. They then take the ammo to gun shows to sell, marking price up by at least $4 per box. My dad flat out told the guy it was wrong what they are doing and is glad that stores are limiting the amount of ammo that they can buy. All of these stores know these people as they are there everyday when their trucks arrive.
     

    cobber

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    Capitalism: supply and demand. I don't blame them for trying to make some money in a free market. I just don't buy from them, let them stuck with all the ammo. the supply is good from what I can tell, I get there earlier than the flippers beat them at their own game. I'd recommend you do the same thing instead of all pissed off.

    I've sold some 22's to INGO members at my cost from Walmart just couple weeks ago. keep looking.

    If I had the time to beat the flippers, I would. But I have a life apart from camping out to buy a few boxes of bullets.

    To the extent there are under the table arrangements, that is black market, not free market.

    If they're doing it to make a few bucks, are they declaring it as income AND paying sales tax? Otherwise, it's gray market at best.

    :twocents:
     

    shibumiseeker

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    If I had the time to beat the flippers, I would. But I have a life apart from camping out to buy a few boxes of bullets.

    To the extent there are under the table arrangements, that is black market, not free market.

    If they're doing it to make a few bucks, are they declaring it as income AND paying sales tax? Otherwise, it's gray market at best.

    :twocents:

    Actually, buying up all of a resource in order to artificially create scarcity and inflate the price is not free market at all. It IS capitalism though, and is a good example of one of the major flaws in pure capitalism. All pure economic theories have some pretty major flaws.
     

    M&P 9 Shootist

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    I have gotten so tired of hearing about capitalism and the free market as an excuse to screw people over. I really don't see how some people sleep at night! I guess I guess I am one of those people who would rather make a million dollars by earning $1 profit from 1 million people rather that screw 10,000 people out of $100 profit. The end result is the same with one exception...integrity! I refuse to do business with companies that decided to take advantage of the great 2nd amendment scare of 2013. Companies like Cheaper than Dirt will never get another dime of my money. I gained an enormous amount of respect for some of the smaller Mom & Pop stores who's prices are consistently higher than the high volume retailers such as Bud's Gun shop but they kept their prices as low as possible through all of the shortages. Those stores have earned my loyalty and my business even though they may be a little higher. Companies and individuals who felt the need to charge people $60 or more for a $12 Pmag just because the free market and the all mighty capitalism said they could have lost my respect forever! I'm not saying it's a horrible thing to buy a product and resell it at a modest profit for the time & effort you put into doing all of the leg work but there is a limit in my opinion.
     

    ljk

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    If I had the time to beat the flippers, I would. But I have a life apart from camping out to buy a few boxes of bullets.

    To the extent there are under the table arrangements, that is black market, not free market.

    If they're doing it to make a few bucks, are they declaring it as income AND paying sales tax? Otherwise, it's gray market at best.

    :twocents:

    there wasn't anybody camping out at Gander on saturday mid morning. yes, I have a full time job, with 2 little kids and going to school at Ivy Tech, weekend is about my only time available. I was able to pick up 5k of M-22 22LR < 6 cents/round. they had it on Sunday too.

    if you want them, work harder.


    oh, btw, next time you see them flippers, call the IRS for us, Nobody is stopping you.
     

    churchmouse

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    Yeah! What he said!

    Down with capitalism and free market!

    Purple??

    Remember folks...if there is an opportunity someone will take it. If we support it they will continue. If we thumb our noses at them they will snake off to another opportunity.

    I have seen this in every hobby/pastime I have ever had. Harley's, Muscle cars, racing....you name it. Snakes are snakes and folks are folks. The 2 must co-exist.
     

    churchmouse

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    Actually, buying up all of a resource in order to artificially create scarcity and inflate the price is not free market at all. It IS capitalism though, and is a good example of one of the major flaws in pure capitalism. All pure economic theories have some pretty major flaws.

    Bingo.
     

    warthog

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    Feb 12, 2013
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    Look, the best way to make people stop flipping is to stop making it profitable. Is it going to end your ife to not shoot your .22's? Is it a need or a want?

    If it is a want and if you won't die to shoot something else than your .22's, then you;re as much to lame as those who buy up all the ammo if you make it pay for them to do so.

    Nothing [STRIKE]purple[/STRIKE] here, I traded some sub-sonics even up for some .22 LR's a week ago, until those I had given mine to the 4H so the youth programs could continue.

    I didn't have a single round of .22LR from January until last week and I survived just fine. I have yet to pay for .22's at a ridiculous price, though I wil eventually since i know most folks lack self control.

    As Nacy Reagan was so famous for saying, "JUST SAY NO!" to high prices, flipped .22 LR ammo and you will be amazed at how fast you will start finding it again in the stores.
     

    midget

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    It isn't just the people flipping ammo. I can't tell you how many times I've heard the following from people: "Hey! I just found xxx has some 22. I bought it all up." I have thus coined the term for this as going Full-Retard... Until people quit going Full-Retard on ammo supplies, selection will be down.
     

    ViperJock

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    'Murika!

    US Income Inequality At Record High: Top 1% Earned A Fifth Of Total Income In 2012

    Now I'll go sit in a corner while I'm called socialist or communist or whatever.

    Wtf this has to do with ammo prices I'm not sure ??? But if you want some of that then go get some. You know, make better life decisions, get a better education, work harder. It's awesome how my highschool classmates thought I was a nerd for studying and now they think I should give them free **** via paying more taxes. Take your class warfare bull**** somewhere else. New York might like it.
     

    shibumiseeker

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    The funny part is, I buy .22lr ammo in case lots. The last time I bought some I bought 10k rounds. So on the off-chance I were to buy ammo at Walmart, buying 10 boxes would not be out of line. In fact, I used to buy it a couple boxes at a time every time I went into WM. Because of this, I have enough .22lr for several years of my normal shooting, AND in the last few months I sold a few boxes (of 500) to friends at what it cost to get it to my door. I haven't bought .22lr in a year now, and if I see a case lot of a good brand available at a decent price I'll buy it, but if not, no big deal. I won't worry until I start digging in to my 2011 purchase stash. At my current rate of .22lr (20 or so rounds a day), I've got a bit more time...

    People think that 3-4 boxes of ammo is a lot. It isn't if you are serious about shooting.
     

    churchmouse

    I still care....Really
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    187   0   0
    Dec 7, 2011
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    Look, the best way to make people stop flipping is to stop making it profitable. Is it going to end your ife to not shoot your .22's? Is it a need or a want?

    If it is a want and if you won't die to shoot something else than your .22's, then you;re as much to lame as those who buy up all the ammo if you make it pay for them to do so.

    Nothing [STRIKE]purple[/STRIKE] here, I traded some sub-sonics even up for some .22 LR's a week ago, until those I had given mine to the 4H so the youth programs could continue.

    I didn't have a single round of .22LR from January until last week and I survived just fine. I have yet to pay for .22's at a ridiculous price, though I wil eventually since i know most folks lack self control.

    As Nacy Reagan was so famous for saying, "JUST SAY NO!" to high prices, flipped .22 LR ammo and you will be amazed at how fast you will start finding it again in the stores.

    Gave a butt load of ours away for the same reasons but we had it to give.

    I have picked up several in the last few months just staying alert to deals.
     
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