Winchester Black Talon

[Miles42]

Are Winchester Black Talon 45 ACP 230 grs in any demand?

 

[Slawburger]

It is the forerunner to Ranger SXT and Bonded PDX1.
Someone would probably pay a little extra just because of the notoriety or for a collectible.
I would prefer one of the newer rounds but if I had some, I would use them.

 

[sniper102]

I shoot mine. I have about 3 cases of them. I have the new Ranger rounds also. The only difference is they aren't black.

 

[scootn103]

I have seen them higher priced then the SXT's , i have some .40 talons . I have seen people buy them for way more then normal , i guess like slawburger said its a collectible type thing.

 

[SERparacord]

99% of your hollow-points are talon type now.

 

[Indy_Guy_77]

They're somewhat of a "collector's item" now.

Some will definitely pay a premium for a full box + being in good condition.

I personally have no idea what they'd bring.

 

[Disposable Heart]

Take them to a gun show or "pocket traders" event, sell them for a buck a round, either collectors or the uninformed will snap up the now 20+ year old ammo in a heart beat...

Reminds me, I need to get back to buying PDX1, painting the bullet black with a magic marker and selling them as Black Talons... Might be doing someone a favor if they actually have to use their ammo...

 

[red_zr24x4]

Black talon= SXT = Same xact thing

 

[damdayshifter]

They were labeled cop killers by the press.

 

[possum_128]

They were labeled cop killers by the press.

Yeah, well any bullet that kills a cop is a cop killer bullet. Remember, it's the persdon who fired the shot that is the killer, not the object. Don't believe everything you read from the press. Nothing special about the black talons except they are black.

 

[printcraft]

They are highly dangerous..............

I'm lucky to still have my hand. One of the dumber things I have done.

 

[flnt38]

if you carry them be prepared for a bunch of hassle from leo, should they have a chance to inspect your handgun. I had to endure quite a bunch of bs over my quote, Teflon coated cop killer bullets, unquote from a local PD. not saying it will happen but it can.

 

[Cygnus]

Or you can carry the 3rd generation version.....It is a defensive round and won't kill you onit's own. http://www.winchester.com/Products/handgun-ammunition/Innovative/PDX1-Defender/Pages/default.aspx


I can't belive Printcraft is taking his own life in his hands by "sweeping" himself with all those rounds that could just go off!!!!

 

[45fan]

Apparently someone who doesnt understand how bullet proof vests work decided that the teflon on the Black Talon would make them go right through the vests that police wear, labeling them "cop killers".

If pressed into service, I am sure that they would work as well as most hollow point SD ammo, but I dont believe they posses any special powers that seek out targets on their own, or that warrant the $40+/ per box of 20 that I have seen them for at gun shows. I wouldn't trust 20 year old ammo in my SD gun when new production ammo is still available, and probably newer, more reliable technology to boot.

If you have a supply of them, I would either shoot them, or sell them to black talon fan boys at the gun shows for a healthy profit.

 

[GLOCKBOY]

I sold 2 boxes on Arfcom for $105 +shipping. Sold in a few hours.

 

[M67]

Can't believe I missed this thread.

Black Talons were never outlawed and Winchester was never forced to quit making them. They got a bad name because some person went on a shooting spree and used Black Talons. Plus that dangerous black finish which was NOT teflon, it was Lubalox. Press claimed it could punch right through a bullet proof vest. It was just a good ol smear campaign

Winchester due to headaches just dropped the Talon and made the STX then the PDX, claiming that improvements to the expansion for both lines.

During the panic last year I picked up my first 9mm carry gun and the only hollow points I ever cared to hold on to (novelty) was Black Talons. I carried them for months until I found a box of Gold Dots

 

[ru6797]

I will have to do that, back 20 years ago as a reserve a carried them on duty, then all the fuss about them working to well our chief told us to chance them out, now i have a box or two of 9mm and 45acp just setting in safe

 

[Indyelmo]

I still carry in my Glock26