HP-38 powder question...

[jstory]

HP-38 and Winchester 231 both seem to be the same powders. I am wondering how well HP-38 does in 9mm and .380. I have seen alot of HP but never see Titegroup anywhere, other than a pound I got this past weekend. Just curious how this powder compares to Titegroup, never tried it and curious. Thanks INGO.

 

[mac45]

W231 and HP 38 are the same powder in different cans.

Have used both W231 and Titegroup in 9mm and .380.
The 9mm was some time ago, but I don't recall any huge differences. Both shot OK.
My .380's seem to prefer Titegroup over W231 (HP38).

As always, YMMV

 

[gregkl]

I really like HP-38/231 in my 9mm. It seems to be more accurate than my Titegroup and I like the recoil better. I still like Titegroup but I will try to stay stocked on both powders since they work so well.

 

[TheFireArmorer]

I've been loading plated 124gr bullets with 4.5gr of HP-38 as my go to load for 9mm for a while now. I love it. Titegroup works well, but leaves the gun a whole lot dirtier than HP-38 does.

 

[jstory]

I really like HP-38/231 in my 9mm. It seems to be more accurate than my Titegroup and I like the recoil better. I still like Titegroup but I will try to stay stocked on both powders since they work so well.

Titegroup is a little smokey with cast bullets, how does HP do with cast? Anyone here have experience with HP and cast bullets? Thanks again INGO...

 

[Sirshredalot]

Titegroup is a little smokey with cast bullets, how does HP do with cast? Anyone here have experience with HP and cast bullets? Thanks again INGO...

W231/HP-38 load great for cast....I run a 125gr LRN with all my my 9mm loads and w231 is my go to powder....it does smoke a little but NOTHING like titegroup(garbage) and it was also more accurate than I am(not difficult anymore).

I dont recall my load data off the top of my head but IIRC it was about a 3/4 max load from the 49th lyman.....?

I love 231 for lead...it doesnt smoke as bad, and doesnt overheat the gun like TG...did I mention that I HATE Titegroup?

God bless
-Shred

 

[jstory]

W231/HP-38 load great for cast....I run a 125gr LRN with all my my 9mm loads and w231 is my go to powder....it does smoke a little but NOTHING like titegroup(garbage) and it was also more accurate than I am(not difficult anymore).

I dont recall my load data off the top of my head but IIRC it was about a 3/4 max load from the 49th lyman.....?

I love 231 for lead...it doesnt smoke as bad, and doesnt overheat the gun like TG...did I mention that I HATE Titegroup?

God bless
-Shred

Thanks for the input...may have to get a pound and try it out. Use my Titegroup to load up FMJ and HP to load up cast. Thanks again...

 

[Slim400]

just wondering whose lead

 

[jstory]

just wondering whose lead

Not sure what your asking...sorry.

 

[VERT]

I am fine tuning some HP-38 loads. Just need to get to the range again to run them across the chrono. 4.0 - 4.4 grains under a 124 grain Bayou Bullets. My Lee turret press has a 3.9 and 4.3 grain disc. Both loads cycled fine. The 4.3 grain was about 133+ PF in the cold. The 3.9 grain load seemed a bit light. Accuracy was good out to 15 yards.