Shellshock Technologies - 2 piece cases

[Thegeek]

Stumbled across this today. I like the idea, but one thing completely bothers me. They say the case is stronger than brass, can take pressures over Plus P Plus (65k CUP) and doesn't fatigue like brass, but at the same time is so fragile it can't use standard reloading dies? Aluminum head with a nickel steel alloy body. I can't find anything on how the two parts go together. I'm very tempted to buy a box just so I can cut one in half and figure it out.

http://www.shellshocktechnologies.com/

 

[oldpink]

I don't do beta testing on gun technology, particularly with the part that goes *bang*.
Give it a few years of rigorous testing and a track record of being a genuinely better mousetrap, and we'll buy.
My first instinct is to look at this with the same healthy skepticism that we (justifiably) gave the RIP bullets that turned out to be just another gimmick.

 

[Woobie]

Interesting. I'd like to know more.

But hey, they have a picture of an "operator", so it's probably amazing.

 

[Thegeek]

The Youtubers seem to be pretty impressed with them (their credentials are respectable). They've also been written about in a handfull of second shelf magazines. Personally, I think it's just asking for case head separation.

 

[Nazgul]

What is wrong with brass?

Looks like a solution to a not so real problem.

Don

 

[Thegeek]

I'm in no way jumping on the bandwagon, but the benefits they list are:

Spring coefficient / tensile strength - case length doesn't grow, cases rebound from chamber from easier extraction, reloadable life 10x that of brass.
Corrosion resistant - extends case life, lowers friction.
Lower friction - just like nickel plated, these cases slide easier out of the magazine and out of the chamber.
Ferrous - magnetic cases are easier to collect and clean up.

Interestingly enough, what makes brass cases good for reloading is the malleability of brass. Makes flaring and crimping possible. Not sure how those would work well with these cases.

 

[oldpink]

I'm in no way jumping on the bandwagon, but the benefits they list are:

Spring coefficient / tensile strength - case length doesn't grow, cases rebound from chamber from easier extraction, reloadable life 10x that of brass.
Corrosion resistant - extends case life, lowers friction.
Lower friction - just like nickel plated, these cases slide easier out of the magazine and out of the chamber.
Ferrous - magnetic cases are easier to collect and clean up.

Interestingly enough, what makes brass cases good for reloading is the malleability of brass. Makes flaring and crimping possible. Not sure how those would work well with these cases.

If all those things turn out to be true, and if these really hold up and cause no problems, these will succeed on a grand scale, and possibly with some military applications.
The price on the cases didn't seem out of line.
Also, they have specialized dies that resize and flare the case, with the clear difference from conventional sizing dies being that they both have spring-loaded central posts that forcibly push the case free of the die rather than depending on the shell holder to pull it free, presumably because of the soft aluminum extractor groove/rim that would get stripped off without the benefit of that central post.

 

[Doublehelix]

There was another post around here on this recently. I tried to search for it, but could not find it. Does anyone remember it? I tried searching for "Shellshock" (with and without a space), and sever other combinations (2 piece, etc.) but could not find anything.

 

[Thegeek]

I searched before I brought it up.... nada

 

[AmmoManAaron]

Kirk Freeman has a post on it somewhere...

 

[Bigtanker]

But hey, they have a picture of an "operator", so it's probably amazing.

He's an impostor. No beard.

 

[Bigtanker]

What is wrong with brass?

Looks like a solution to a not so real problem.

Don

This. Kinda like the guys who tried to market a true straight walled 9mm case, the 9mm Automatic.

The 9mm Fixed? The Straight-Walled 9mm Automatic - The Firearm Blog

 

[Doublehelix]

Kirk Freeman has a post on it somewhere...

That's what I thought as well! I actually typed that in my last message but deleted it because I wasn't 100% sure it was him.

 

[lovetheoutdoors]

I agree wait a minute on these. I would however love to cut one open and examine it. The whole 2 piece case really bothers me. This might just be me though

 

[Sniper 79]

Good deal! I'll go ahead and take everyones old obsolete brass cases for disposal.

 

[Thegeek]

I think I'm going to order a box of .45 just for curiosity.