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    reloading .38special w/ fffg black powder substitute

    I recently got a free partial container of Clean Shot fffg black powder substitute from a friend, along with a cheap muzzleloader rifle and some percussion caps.

    Anyways, I thought about loading up some .38 specials and/or .357mags with the stuff, just for ****s and giggles...

    Problem is, the majority of the powder is clumped up.

    Provided I break the powder up, does anyone see this being a problem?

    Also, I've read that one should just fill up the cartridge (38 at least) so that it's slightly compressed when the bullet is seated. Any thoughts on that? I just wanna be sure I'm not going to be producing dangerous pressures...
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    very dangerious business me friend. since black powder is measured how much does it take to fill a 38 case? i know of no equation to convert load data from smokless to black powder.

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    That doesn't sound like a good idea. Unless you can find out exactly how much powder to put in, I wouldn't try it.
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    I'm hoping someone can chime in with experience...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 42769vette View Post
    very dangerious business me friend. since black powder is measured how much does it take to fill a 38 case? i know of no equation to convert load data from smokless to black powder.
    Not so. The 38 special was originally a BP cartridge. Let me do some checking and get back to you but I think you just fill the sucker up and seat the bullet. Don't take my word for it until I get back to you though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delmar View Post
    Not so. The 38 special was originally a BP cartridge.
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    I found this at one of the BP forums. Check the sources yourself.

    According to Chicoine's "Gunsmithing Guns of the old West" on page 23 it shows,


    38 special 158 gr Baloon head case Solid head case speed
    21 gr FFg 19 gr FFg 850 fps

    38 long colt 150 gr 18 gr FFg 16 gr FFg 760 fps


    Lyman's black powder only lists 38 special

    158 gr bullet

    goex ffg 17 gr 561 fps

    goex fffg 17.5 gr 642

    pyrodex RS 17 gr 638

    pyrodex P 18 gr 635

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    I'll be using a 140gr lswc. solid head cases of course

    Seems I read somewhere that somebody couldn't fit 16grs into a 38sp case...
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    Load it up so the Black powder is compressed under the bullet. There is no way to create an over pressure load with black powder.

    After you have scratched the itch and enjoyed all the smoke, be sure to take off the side plate of the handgun and clean the residue out of there too with hot soapy water. That stuff goes everywhere.....

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    I'll use my dad's .357 to shoot em'...
    Buckshot Sporting Goods of Winchester IN has opened a new 2nd location in New Castle, located at the corner of Greensboro Pike and SR 38!

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