INGunOwners



Indiana GunOwners Shop INGO!

Go Back   INGunOwners > Firearms, Ammo & Gear > Ammunition and Reloading
Facebook Follow INGO on Twitter Follow INGO on YouTube
Register iTrader Today's Posts Community Mark Forums Read



Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-21-2010   #1 (permalink)
Sharpshooter
 
Spot Me 2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Getting ready for the coming economic collapse.....
Posts: 769
Spot Me 2 is a splendid one to behold Spot Me 2 is a splendid one to behold Spot Me 2 is a splendid one to behold Spot Me 2 is a splendid one to behold Spot Me 2 is a splendid one to behold Spot Me 2 is a splendid one to behold
Spot Me 2 is a splendid one to behold Spot Me 2 is a splendid one to behold Spot Me 2 is a splendid one to behold Spot Me 2 is a splendid one to behold Spot Me 2 is a splendid one to behold Spot Me 2 is a splendid one to behold Spot Me 2 is a splendid one to behold Spot Me 2 is a splendid one to behold Spot Me 2 is a splendid one to behold Spot Me 2 is a splendid one to behold Spot Me 2 is a splendid one to behold Spot Me 2 is a splendid one to behold Spot Me 2 is a splendid one to behold Spot Me 2 is a splendid one to behold
Best grain for 1/9 twist in a 16inch barrel in .223

Just like the title says. What is the best bullet weight for accuracy for a 1/9 twist 16 inch barrel for .223/5.56? I want to start doing more long range work with my AR. I did a search and came up blank.
Spot Me 2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2010   #2 (permalink)
Master
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Indianapolis, In
Posts: 2,710
singlesix has a reputation beyond repute singlesix has a reputation beyond repute singlesix has a reputation beyond repute singlesix has a reputation beyond repute singlesix has a reputation beyond repute singlesix has a reputation beyond repute singlesix has a reputation beyond repute singlesix has a reputation beyond repute
singlesix has a reputation beyond repute singlesix has a reputation beyond repute singlesix has a reputation beyond repute singlesix has a reputation beyond repute singlesix has a reputation beyond repute singlesix has a reputation beyond repute singlesix has a reputation beyond repute singlesix has a reputation beyond repute singlesix has a reputation beyond repute
This maybe helpful.

http://le.atk.com/pdf/223_MinimumTwistRates.pdf
singlesix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2010   #3 (permalink)
Keep it quiet, use a silencer!
 
Gamez235's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: NE Indiana
Posts: 2,876
Gamez235 has a reputation beyond repute Gamez235 has a reputation beyond repute Gamez235 has a reputation beyond repute Gamez235 has a reputation beyond repute Gamez235 has a reputation beyond repute Gamez235 has a reputation beyond repute Gamez235 has a reputation beyond repute Gamez235 has a reputation beyond repute Gamez235 has a reputation beyond repute
Gamez235 has a reputation beyond repute Gamez235 has a reputation beyond repute Gamez235 has a reputation beyond repute Gamez235 has a reputation beyond repute Gamez235 has a reputation beyond repute Gamez235 has a reputation beyond repute Gamez235 has a reputation beyond repute Gamez235 has a reputation beyond repute
According to that chart alot of Ammo would be unsuitable for the barrels we use.

Me personally I would pick a bullet weight that your gun likes. I don't shoot too much of anything over 62 gr. period out of my AR's.. I find the 55gr Nosler BT or 55gr V-Max works well for groundhogs and critter out to 350m if I do my part. I've shot well out to 500m with the same loads, but at that distance you'd be better of tossing paper airplanes at them. Yes, there is 69gr and 75gr .224" bullets out there, but it paper is the target by all means try them out. I prefer something with more weight and energy behind it for anything past 400m though. So the .308 is my go to for those things.

Long range for a 16" AR is in the 350m if you're up to it. Know your ballistics though if you go father, it gets into a lot more math out past 400m
Gamez235 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2010   #4 (permalink)
Expert
 
red_zr24x4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Walkerton
Posts: 1,858
red_zr24x4 is a name known to all red_zr24x4 is a name known to all red_zr24x4 is a name known to all red_zr24x4 is a name known to all
red_zr24x4 is a name known to all red_zr24x4 is a name known to all red_zr24x4 is a name known to all red_zr24x4 is a name known to all red_zr24x4 is a name known to all red_zr24x4 is a name known to all red_zr24x4 is a name known to all red_zr24x4 is a name known to all red_zr24x4 is a name known to all red_zr24x4 is a name known to all red_zr24x4 is a name known to all
My experiance with a Savage .223 1 in 9 it depends on the bullet /powder combo. I went to South Dakota a few years ago prairie dog shooting. I had a few 1000 55gr fmj to load they really liked aa2015. I then went to BLC2 and after trying a few different bullets I ended up using 60 gr v-max
Are you reloading or buying loaded ammo? If your reloading I would try different powder/ bullets until you find that magic combo, seating depth will affect accuracy also but you will be limited in how long you can make them because of the mag.
red_zr24x4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2010   #5 (permalink)
Grandmaster
 
jblomenberg16's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Seymour
Posts: 7,003
jblomenberg16 has probably spent too much time in the PW threads jblomenberg16 has probably spent too much time in the PW threads jblomenberg16 has probably spent too much time in the PW threads jblomenberg16 has probably spent too much time in the PW threads jblomenberg16 has probably spent too much time in the PW threads jblomenberg16 has probably spent too much time in the PW threads jblomenberg16 has probably spent too much time in the PW threads jblomenberg16 has probably spent too much time in the PW threads jblomenberg16 has probably spent too much time in the PW threads jblomenberg16 has probably spent too much time in the PW threads jblomenberg16 has probably spent too much time in the PW threads jblomenberg16 has probably spent too much time in the PW threads jblomenberg16 has probably spent too much time in the PW threads jblomenberg16 has probably spent too much time in the PW threads jblomenberg16 has probably spent too much time in the PW threads
jblomenberg16 has probably spent too much time in the PW threads jblomenberg16 has probably spent too much time in the PW threads jblomenberg16 has probably spent too much time in the PW threads jblomenberg16 has probably spent too much time in the PW threads jblomenberg16 has probably spent too much time in the PW threads jblomenberg16 has probably spent too much time in the PW threads jblomenberg16 has probably spent too much time in the PW threads jblomenberg16 has probably spent too much time in the PW threads jblomenberg16 has probably spent too much time in the PW threads jblomenberg16 has probably spent too much time in the PW threads jblomenberg16 has probably spent too much time in the PW threads jblomenberg16 has probably spent too much time in the PW threads jblomenberg16 has probably spent too much time in the PW threads jblomenberg16 has probably spent too much time in the PW threads jblomenberg16 has probably spent too much time in the PW threads
I've tried a variety of bullets for my both of my 16" 1x9 barrels. Standard 55FMJ's as well as 62Gr ss109's shoot well for me. 69 gr HPBT match is the heaviest that I've been able to shoot well. The 75 and 77gr HPBT match bullets out htere seem like they are just a bit too long, as my groups started opening back up compared to the 69's during load development.
__________________
Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD. Psalm 33:12
jblomenberg16 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2010   #6 (permalink)
Building Bridges Between Ammo Forts

 
techres's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Bloomington
Posts: 6,290
techres has probably spent too much time in the PW threads techres has probably spent too much time in the PW threads techres has probably spent too much time in the PW threads techres has probably spent too much time in the PW threads techres has probably spent too much time in the PW threads techres has probably spent too much time in the PW threads techres has probably spent too much time in the PW threads techres has probably spent too much time in the PW threads techres has probably spent too much time in the PW threads techres has probably spent too much time in the PW threads techres has probably spent too much time in the PW threads techres has probably spent too much time in the PW threads techres has probably spent too much time in the PW threads techres has probably spent too much time in the PW threads techres has probably spent too much time in the PW threads
techres has probably spent too much time in the PW threads techres has probably spent too much time in the PW threads techres has probably spent too much time in the PW threads techres has probably spent too much time in the PW threads techres has probably spent too much time in the PW threads techres has probably spent too much time in the PW threads techres has probably spent too much time in the PW threads techres has probably spent too much time in the PW threads techres has probably spent too much time in the PW threads techres has probably spent too much time in the PW threads techres has probably spent too much time in the PW threads techres has probably spent too much time in the PW threads techres has probably spent too much time in the PW threads techres has probably spent too much time in the PW threads techres has probably spent too much time in the PW threads
Quote:
Originally Posted by jblomenberg16 View Post
I've tried a variety of bullets for my both of my 16" 1x9 barrels. Standard 55FMJ's as well as 62Gr ss109's shoot well for me. 69 gr HPBT match is the heaviest that I've been able to shoot well. The 75 and 77gr HPBT match bullets out htere seem like they are just a bit too long, as my groups started opening back up compared to the 69's during load development.
This matches my experience as well. 55 & 62 no problem. 75 gets sloppy. It is funny when PMC 55 outshoots 75 grain match at 100 yards...
__________________
Techres
Appleseed Instructor
Find us at: www.appleseedinfo.org
techres is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2010   #7 (permalink)
Grandmaster
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 8,069
rmabrey has probably spent too much time in the PW threads rmabrey has probably spent too much time in the PW threads rmabrey has probably spent too much time in the PW threads rmabrey has probably spent too much time in the PW threads rmabrey has probably spent too much time in the PW threads rmabrey has probably spent too much time in the PW threads rmabrey has probably spent too much time in the PW threads rmabrey has probably spent too much time in the PW threads rmabrey has probably spent too much time in the PW threads rmabrey has probably spent too much time in the PW threads rmabrey has probably spent too much time in the PW threads rmabrey has probably spent too much time in the PW threads rmabrey has probably spent too much time in the PW threads rmabrey has probably spent too much time in the PW threads rmabrey has probably spent too much time in the PW threads
rmabrey has probably spent too much time in the PW threads rmabrey has probably spent too much time in the PW threads rmabrey has probably spent too much time in the PW threads rmabrey has probably spent too much time in the PW threads rmabrey has probably spent too much time in the PW threads rmabrey has probably spent too much time in the PW threads rmabrey has probably spent too much time in the PW threads rmabrey has probably spent too much time in the PW threads rmabrey has probably spent too much time in the PW threads rmabrey has probably spent too much time in the PW threads rmabrey has probably spent too much time in the PW threads rmabrey has probably spent too much time in the PW threads rmabrey has probably spent too much time in the PW threads rmabrey has probably spent too much time in the PW threads rmabrey has probably spent too much time in the PW threads
Quote:
Originally Posted by techres View Post
This matches my experience as well. 55 & 62 no problem. 75 gets sloppy. It is funny when PMC 55 outshoots 75 grain match at 100 yards...
It is funny. PMC 55 gr shoots the best groups so far for me. Out performed 55 gr WWB and 55 gr Remington Core Lokt
__________________

rmabrey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2010   #8 (permalink)
Master
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Indianapolis, In
Posts: 2,710
singlesix has a reputation beyond repute singlesix has a reputation beyond repute singlesix has a reputation beyond repute singlesix has a reputation beyond repute singlesix has a reputation beyond repute singlesix has a reputation beyond repute singlesix has a reputation beyond repute singlesix has a reputation beyond repute
singlesix has a reputation beyond repute singlesix has a reputation beyond repute singlesix has a reputation beyond repute singlesix has a reputation beyond repute singlesix has a reputation beyond repute singlesix has a reputation beyond repute singlesix has a reputation beyond repute singlesix has a reputation beyond repute singlesix has a reputation beyond repute
Anyone have experience shooting past 100 yards. I'm currently limited to 100 yards at my club (about to change in 2011)?
singlesix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2010   #9 (permalink)
Master
 
SSGSAD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Greenfield In.
Posts: 4,884
SSGSAD has a reputation beyond repute SSGSAD has a reputation beyond repute SSGSAD has a reputation beyond repute SSGSAD has a reputation beyond repute SSGSAD has a reputation beyond repute SSGSAD has a reputation beyond repute SSGSAD has a reputation beyond repute SSGSAD has a reputation beyond repute SSGSAD has a reputation beyond repute SSGSAD has a reputation beyond repute SSGSAD has a reputation beyond repute SSGSAD has a reputation beyond repute SSGSAD has a reputation beyond repute SSGSAD has a reputation beyond repute SSGSAD has a reputation beyond repute
SSGSAD has a reputation beyond repute SSGSAD has a reputation beyond repute SSGSAD has a reputation beyond repute SSGSAD has a reputation beyond repute SSGSAD has a reputation beyond repute SSGSAD has a reputation beyond repute SSGSAD has a reputation beyond repute SSGSAD has a reputation beyond repute SSGSAD has a reputation beyond repute SSGSAD has a reputation beyond repute SSGSAD has a reputation beyond repute SSGSAD has a reputation beyond repute SSGSAD has a reputation beyond repute SSGSAD has a reputation beyond repute SSGSAD has a reputation beyond repute
Quote:
Originally Posted by singlesix View Post
Anyone have experience shooting past 100 yards. I'm currently limited to 100 yards at my club (about to change in 2011)?
I have a Colt, w/ Match 20" barrel, and I shoot at 200 yds, at Crosley, and did one long range match, a couple years ago, at Wildcat??? near Lafayette... shot 80%, with my reloads...
__________________
I shoot slow, and hit every time!!!!!
SSGSAD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2010   #10 (permalink)
Master
 
slow1911s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Indianapolis
Posts: 2,710
slow1911s is a splendid one to behold slow1911s is a splendid one to behold slow1911s is a splendid one to behold slow1911s is a splendid one to behold slow1911s is a splendid one to behold slow1911s is a splendid one to behold
slow1911s is a splendid one to behold slow1911s is a splendid one to behold slow1911s is a splendid one to behold slow1911s is a splendid one to behold slow1911s is a splendid one to behold slow1911s is a splendid one to behold slow1911s is a splendid one to behold slow1911s is a splendid one to behold slow1911s is a splendid one to behold slow1911s is a splendid one to behold
The tables and formulas tell us what the barrel should like. But that is only a starting point. The truth is each barrel has a mind of its own and it is going to take some experimentation to find out what YOUR barrel likes to eat.

Jahred posts that his 1:9" likes 55 gr NBTs. My 1:9" hates them. Maybe it was that particular load (Ultramax), or that bullet, or... My barrel shoots 52 MHPs very well (~1 MOA at 300). It also shoots 68 MHPs well.

Start with some ammo known to shoot well in a lot of rifles (e.g. Black Hills, Federal Gold Medal) and do some experimenting.
__________________
indygunracers.com - Indiana competition shooting info
Prize donator to the 2008 Indiana State Steel and IDPA Championships
slow1911s is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:24.


Powered By vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO
Copyright 2008-2013 INGO, LLC.
Page generated in 0.06363 seconds with 5 queries

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104