Government Destroys Once Fired Brass Cases - Page 3

Lawguns · 03-16-2009

As I said I get the surplus news e-mails as well and did not receive this one. I guess I am just worried because I just bought a lot for $20K

Lawguns · 03-17-2009

As of Monday all the pending auctions on the Government Liquidation Web site that were selling brass were pulled. 2 auctions still on the site. They both require the mutilation of the brass. I have included the text and a link for people to read. In the past these have not required mutilation.

0001 - Uncategorized at Government Liquidation

LOT (4, 043LBS) APPROXIMATE OF FIRED BRASS TO INLCUDE: (2, 908LBS) APPROX OF 5. 56; (50LBS) APPROX OF 7. 62 LINKS; (66LBS) APPROX OF 5. 56 LINKS; (368LBS) APPROX OF 7. 62; (651LBS) APPROX OF 9MM. PROPERTY IS STORED IN CARDBOARD BOXES AND ON (9) PALLETS WHICH ARE INCLUDED IN WEIGHT AND SALE. NO PREVIEW FOR THIS SALE. THIS IS A UNMANNED SITE, LOAD OUTS BY APPOINTMENT ONLY. BASE SCALES AVAILABLE FOR WEIGHING OF CONVEYANCE. ALL SCRAP UNDER THIS CONTRACT REQUIRES MUTILATION BY THE BUYER PRIOR TO REMOVAL IF ALLOWED BY THE INSTALLATION OR MUTILATION MUST BE WITNESSED AND CERTIFIED BY DOD SURPLUS PERSONNEL AT ANOTHER FACILITY. TITLE TO THE MATERIAL DOES NOT PASS TO THE BUYER UNTIL THE SCRAP HAS BEEN MUTILATED. BUYER AGREES TO ALLOW USG PERSONNEL TO WITNESS DESTRUCTION.

This is word for word what was on the site as I cut and pasted it. The other lot listed does not state a demil code it just states that mutilation is required.

CopperWires · 03-17-2009

The owner of Georgia Arms was on Tom Gresham's Gun Talk this past sunday talking about it. Georgia Arms is the 5th largest ammunition producer in the country. He said that if he loses this contract, his company will be cut in half.

Does anyone have a sample letter that I can email?

jsn_mooney · 03-17-2009

All of the dealers specializing in once-fired brass that I checked this morning had updates on their websites explaining the new policy. I don't think this should suprise anyone, I expect a new ammo tax to be forthcoming- in the name of helping the economic crisis. Democrats love taxes, and if it pushes their agenda- that's even better! You don't have to ban guns if you can make it to where the average citizen can't find/afford ammunition for them.

cosermann · 03-17-2009

I thought we were supposed to reduce, REUSE, and RECYCLE! Apparently that doesn't apply to brass. Bunch of liberal hypocrites. (spit)

Lawguns · 03-17-2009

Well without trying to post to many conflicting stories here is a copy of the Email I got today.

We just received word the mutilation requirement is only for fired shells exceeding 50mm.
As your invoice is for notably smaller shells, the sale will proceed as normal, and you will not be required to mutilate them – they can be used for reloading as you’d planned.

Thanks!

Arana K. Wolin
Document Verification Supervisor
Government Liquidation, LLC
DOD Surplus, LLC
15051 N Kierland Blvd. #300
Scottsdale, AZ 85254
(480) 609-3306 direct telephone
(480) 596-4480 fax

JcJ · 03-17-2009

Good news, hope it stays that way..

Thanks for posting this Lawguns!

jediagh · 03-17-2009

hum???
Did the gov do a 180 turn around?

Lawguns · 03-17-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by jediagh

hum???
Did the gov do a 180 turn around?

At this point I don't know. I think they probably misinterpreted their own policies.

IDCC · 03-17-2009

There are Millions of rounds demilled or blown up every year by the DOD in Indiana.

03-16-2009	#21 (permalink)
Lawguns www.law-guns.com Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 345	As I said I get the surplus news e-mails as well and did not receive this one. I guess I am just worried because I just bought a lot for $20K Last edited by Lawguns; 03-17-2009 at 02:00.

03-17-2009	#22 (permalink)
Lawguns www.law-guns.com Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 345	As of Monday March 16th As of Monday all the pending auctions on the Government Liquidation Web site that were selling brass were pulled. 2 auctions still on the site. They both require the mutilation of the brass. I have included the text and a link for people to read. In the past these have not required mutilation. 0001 - Uncategorized at Government Liquidation LOT (4, 043LBS) APPROXIMATE OF FIRED BRASS TO INLCUDE: (2, 908LBS) APPROX OF 5. 56; (50LBS) APPROX OF 7. 62 LINKS; (66LBS) APPROX OF 5. 56 LINKS; (368LBS) APPROX OF 7. 62; (651LBS) APPROX OF 9MM. PROPERTY IS STORED IN CARDBOARD BOXES AND ON (9) PALLETS WHICH ARE INCLUDED IN WEIGHT AND SALE. NO PREVIEW FOR THIS SALE. THIS IS A UNMANNED SITE, LOAD OUTS BY APPOINTMENT ONLY. BASE SCALES AVAILABLE FOR WEIGHING OF CONVEYANCE. ALL SCRAP UNDER THIS CONTRACT REQUIRES MUTILATION BY THE BUYER PRIOR TO REMOVAL IF ALLOWED BY THE INSTALLATION OR MUTILATION MUST BE WITNESSED AND CERTIFIED BY DOD SURPLUS PERSONNEL AT ANOTHER FACILITY. TITLE TO THE MATERIAL DOES NOT PASS TO THE BUYER UNTIL THE SCRAP HAS BEEN MUTILATED. BUYER AGREES TO ALLOW USG PERSONNEL TO WITNESS DESTRUCTION. This is word for word what was on the site as I cut and pasted it. The other lot listed does not state a demil code it just states that mutilation is required. Last edited by Lawguns; 03-17-2009 at 01:59.

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jediagh Expert Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NWI Posts: 2,485	hum??? Did the gov do a 180 turn around? __________________ I7 = Irresponsible Idiot Illegal Immigrant Ignorant Inexperienced Imbecile \|\| Purple = Sarcasm

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03-17-2009	#23 (permalink)
CopperWires Plinker Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Jeffersonville Posts: 192	The owner of Georgia Arms was on Tom Gresham's Gun Talk this past sunday talking about it. Georgia Arms is the 5th largest ammunition producer in the country. He said that if he loses this contract, his company will be cut in half. Does anyone have a sample letter that I can email?

03-17-2009	#24 (permalink)
jsn_mooney Plinker Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 90	All of the dealers specializing in once-fired brass that I checked this morning had updates on their websites explaining the new policy. I don't think this should suprise anyone, I expect a new ammo tax to be forthcoming- in the name of helping the economic crisis. Democrats love taxes, and if it pushes their agenda- that's even better! You don't have to ban guns if you can make it to where the average citizen can't find/afford ammunition for them.

03-17-2009	#25 (permalink)
cosermann Expert Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,420	I thought we were supposed to reduce, REUSE, and RECYCLE! Apparently that doesn't apply to brass. Bunch of liberal hypocrites. (spit)

03-17-2009	#26 (permalink)
Lawguns www.law-guns.com Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 345	Well without trying to post to many conflicting stories here is a copy of the Email I got today. We just received word the mutilation requirement is only for fired shells exceeding 50mm. As your invoice is for notably smaller shells, the sale will proceed as normal, and you will not be required to mutilate them – they can be used for reloading as you’d planned. Thanks! Arana K. Wolin Document Verification Supervisor Government Liquidation, LLC DOD Surplus, LLC 15051 N Kierland Blvd. #300 Scottsdale, AZ 85254 (480) 609-3306 direct telephone (480) 596-4480 fax

03-17-2009	#27 (permalink)
JcJ BANNED Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brownsburg Posts: 1,591	Good news, hope it stays that way.. Thanks for posting this Lawguns!

03-17-2009	#30 (permalink)
IDCC Plinker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Orange County Posts: 226	There are Millions of rounds demilled or blown up every year by the DOD in Indiana.