Paedophile to be beheaded and crucified in Saudi Arabia for string of sex attacks whe

[haldir]

Originally Posted by infantrylife

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you

And I will state here, if I ever become a child rapist I ask for one of you guys to put me down like the sick dog I would be.

[mettle]

Originally Posted by haldir

They say that this sort of sickness can never be cured so I would not expect the type of deterrence you are talking about. I would point out that it does an excellent job of deterring that particular MFer from ever doing it again. Additionally sometimes retribution is okay for its own rewards. Sorry but I have no sympathy for child rapists. I also think this is just a small taste of what their eternity will be like.

Another thought to ad to that is: at least the people over there aren't paying thousands of dollars a year of taxes to house some fool who chose NOT to participate in society too. There is no repeat business. I'd be interested to see what the crime/population ratio is over there compared to here. I'll bet it's a lot lower, period.

Some of us were born 100 years too late. I'd like to be able to just shoot the guy who tries to steal my cattle instead of paying for his stay in prison for a couple years. You are correct; retribution sometimes has its own rewards.

[OneBadV8]

Originally Posted by VUPDblue

Well, the fact that they have executed 56 people this way THIS YEAR serves to undermine the school of thought that this kind of punishment deters crime...

Sort of... how many more would there have been if they sent them to prison where they get 3 meals a day, A/C, TV, exercise equipment and all the other things we give our criminals... He'd be out in what, 10 years? We have way more than 56.

Just saying, maybe it deters more than one thinks

[Cygnus]

This one they got right!

[abnk]

Originally Posted by OneBadV8

Sort of... how many more would there have been if they sent them to prison where they get 3 meals a day, A/C, TV, exercise equipment and all the other things we give our criminals... He'd be out in what, 10 years? We have way more than 56.

Just saying, maybe it deters more than one thinks

Good point.

Our criminal justice system and the death penalty is based on the same principle: Disincetivize an criminal action by having strong negative consequences.

Dr. John Lott makes a strong case, from an economist's point of view, why capital punishment works. Granted, what may work in one society may not work in another, but as a matter of behavior, even animals respond to reward/punishment consequences. No reason why they would not work on most humans.

[infantrylife]

I agree. 56 is not good but a lot better than the probably ten of thousand's we have every year.

[Fargo]

Originally Posted by VUPDblue

Well, the fact that they have executed 56 people this way THIS YEAR serves to undermine the school of thought that this kind of punishment deters crime...

Unless you can show that they still have a comparable crime rate to other countries, I don't think your conclusion follows from your premise.....

Originally Posted by Fletch

In other words, if you were once a Muslim, and now you're not, you get the same treatment as the child molesters, murderers, robbers and so forth. Freedom of conscience or belief has no place there. Not exactly the folks I'd choose to look up to, but that's just me.

Yeah, and we constitutional enshrine a right to jam a pair of scissors in the top of a baby's head as it exits its mother's body; not exactly a principle I look up to either, but that's just me.... I'm not saying the apostasy thing is in any way right, but I don't think you should paint an entire society by the one abhorrent practice it espouses.

Also, if you go look at the text of the 1st Amendment, you will find that it begins with "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion." What you don't know is that "establishment of religion" was a legal term of art which meant a state mandated/supported religion. What I'm quite certain you don't know is that 11 of the original 13 states had such "establishments of religion" and that that clause of the 1st amendment protected those state sponsored religions from federal interference.* While no one was being beheaded, you could be fined or imprisoned if you refused to attend, support, or comply with the religious mandates of these "establishments of religion." Were the framers of this country people you can't look up to because of this?

*Virginia enacted a law requiring religious freedom in 1786, Georgia in 1789 and so on until the 1830 when the last state did so.

[paddling_man]

Originally Posted by haldir

And I will state here, if I ever become a child rapist I ask for one of you guys to put me down like the sick dog I would be.

Done. I would ask the same.


Saudi Arabia. Sexist. Elitist. Ruled by a family whose views do not reflect the population at large. Still... this one they get right.

How come life in prison doesn't mean life? Until it does, we're not ready to do away with the death penalty. Stop thinking in terms of "punishment" for a minute and think in terms of safeguarding innocent people from incorrigible murderers.

JESSE VENTURA

[Fletch]

Originally Posted by Fargo

Also, if you go look at the text of the 1st Amendment, you will find that it begins with "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion." What you don't know is that "establishment of religion" was a legal term of art which meant a state mandated/supported religion. What I'm quite certain you don't know is that 11 of the original 13 states had such "establishments of religion" and that that clause of the 1st amendment protected those state sponsored religions from federal interference.* While no one was being beheaded, you could be fined or imprisoned if you refused to attend, support, or comply with the religious mandates of these "establishments of religion." Were the framers of this country people you can't look up to because of this?

If you'll browse my comments on the board, you'll see that my relationship with the founders is rather rocky, to say the least.

[VUPDblue]

I never said I disagreed with the punishment in question. I was simply pointing out some food for thought.

That being said, if WE punished all the child based sex offenders this way, immediately after trial, I believe there would be significantly less of that behavior.