Cracked weighs in on open carry

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5 Things to Know About the Armed Men in Your Local Chipotle | Cracked.com

 

[HoughMade]

...I sense some flaming aimed at Cracked coming.....but he gets an awful lot right.

 

[SteveM4A1]

...I sense some flaming aimed at Cracked coming.....but he gets an awful lot right.

Which parts do you believe he got right? And are we just discussing OCT or all open carriers?

I love this false dichotomy:

Concealed handguns are not only already legal, but much much safer than packing your heat on a belt. Wearing a gun on your hip says exactly two things to a potential criminal madman:
1. You have something worth stealing.
2. If he's going to start something, he should probably shoot you in the back of the head first.

 

[femurphy77]

Which parts do you believe he got right? And are we just discussing OCT or all open carriers?

I love this false dichotomy:

Concealed handguns are not only already legal, but much much safer than packing your heat on a belt. Wearing a gun on your hip says exactly two things to a potential criminal madman:
1. You have something worth stealing.
2. If he's going to start something, he should probably shoot you in the back of the head first.

#2 is actually quite humorous if you think about it. I've seen a LOT of surveillance videos where the introduction of a firearm immediately causes the bad guys to flee. Whether it's drawn upon initiation of hostilities or where the intended victim moves his body in such a way as to expose the firearm to the potential perpetrator. I wonder if there are any instances where a civilian is shot dead by a bad guy prior to initiation of the intended robbery, rape, etc.?

 

[HoughMade]

...so we're piling on 3 lines of a 2 page piece...is that the only part anyone has thoughts on?

 

[HoughMade]

#5. Most Gun Owners Consider These Guys Lunatics
Talking about these guys? “Lunatic may be a bit strong but ignorant, self-righteous and short-sighted come to mind.

#4. They're Paranoid Bullies


Talking about these guys? He may have a point.


Spitting, Stalking, Rape Threats: How Gun Extremists Target Women | Mother Jones


#3. They Don't Really Care About Protection


I disagree with this, but he brings up some interesting points of discussion.


#2. They Have a Major Persecution Complex


Whining about all the people out to get you isn’t limited to OCT.


#1. They're Their Own Worst Enemies


This is so obvious that many on INGO have started to claim that the “activists” that look the goofiest must be plants.

 

[cobber]

It's an openly-biased and intellectually-dishonest article, eg the tired characterization of the NRA. And not particularly funny.

Plus no hot babes.

I give it two thumbs down.

 

[HeadlessRoland]

Cracked: liberal non-funny propaganda masquerading as humor.

 

[ModernGunner]

Cracked is a left-leaning site, so there's that.

Jim Henry created his own problems by showing up to video record and harass the OC'ers. So, Henry gets zero 'sympathy' on that.

But, Cracked IS correct on #1, this group constantly and consistently create their own problems, then want to b***h about having problems, LOL!

The idea of carrying as some sort of 'protest' or 'political agenda' and creating little 'rallies' to 'prove the point' is as fanatical and loony as ANYTHING Shannon Watts comes up with.

These actions absolutely do NOT help the pro-2A movement, they do NOT further gun rights, and they do NOT 'convert' anyone over to the 'pro-gun' side of any debate.

Carry a firearm properly and responsibly. Or don't. Open Carry or Concealed Carry. Your choice. Whatever.

The anti-gun loons already 'hate' these 'protest' goofs. But they've now alienated a LOT of the pro-gun community with such foolishness. And they believe in the false security of just yelling "I have the RIGHT!", like that's a 'cure-all'. Wrong.

Maybe these folks really ARE too stupid to own a gun.

 

[SteveM4A1]

...so we're piling on 3 lines of a 2 page piece...is that the only part anyone has thoughts on?

I have thoughts on the whole piece. I was simply pointing out a glaringly fallacious statement within the article.

#5. He may be correct in thinking that the some of the individuals are lunatics. And most gun owners may believe they are lunatics. Argumentum ad populum
#4. I haven't read up much on the whole spitting, stalking, rape threats of these individuals. If it is true, then I see the point. I would not, however, use an article from Mother Jones to support my case. (I will do some more reading on this though, and if true, it is truly disturbing.)
#3. I disagree with this line of thought.
#2. Once again, I disagree. They cannot openly carry a handgun in their state, so their right is being oppressed. They may not be going about it in the most effective manner, but the oppression is still there.
#1. Those companies didn't ban guns. What was the author's point? Exercising a right leads to that right being legislated away?

 

[Maximinus Thrax]

Some points in the article were okay at best while others were a bit off base.

The writer is blatantly against OC and uses that logic to dictate his writing of the article. For him, the open carry of a pistol is stupid so the open carry of a long gun is miles beyond that. I'll give him credit when talking about the approach and the image of the two individuals holding their rifles at low ready. I don't walk around with my hand on my pistol and would expect the same of someone staging an open carry demonstration with rifles. Keep your mitts off of the gun!

I think me may have some grounding in fact when talking about the mentality of some of our more "outspoken" OC activists. As with all groups, we have our fringe crowd who doesn't understand behavioral limits and takes things necessarily far with outright bullying and threats. I wonder though if he lumps all who OC in with these groups...I get the feeling that he does and that's where his argument goes pear shaped for me.

 

[85s10]

I realize that most people have an opinion to share with others when the opportunity arises and the right to carry concealed is one certainly worthy. But open carry is certainly one to think about. In this day and age it gets alot of attention by law abiding people and would be criminals, as pointed out. Criminals are either intimidated or your the first one to go down. I'm not sure it helps our cause with the ordinary public these days.

 

[Hexlobular]

I realize that most people have an opinion to share with others when the opportunity arises and the right to carry concealed is one certainly worthy. But open carry is certainly one to think about. In this day and age it gets alot of attention by law abiding people and would be criminals, as pointed out. Criminals are either intimidated or your the first one to go down. I'm not sure it helps our cause with the ordinary public these days.

I have no idea what this means.

 

[85s10]

I'm all for concealed carry but I think carrying AK 47's in public scares most people these days and is not going to do anything to further the fight to keep our 2nd Amendment freedom.

 

[No2rdame]

Though I completely support the right to OC, these protestors need to realize that public opinion is all that separates our rights being defended versus attacked by every politician. As gun owners we should fight to defend the second amendment and our rights but we must do so in the exact opposite manner of our opponents; they try to use fear and ignorance to justify restricting our rights and we need to defend them with logic and reason. Having some fat guy waddle into a fast food restaurant carrying an AR will invariably sway members of the general public and not necessarily in a good way.

 

[88GT]

It all boils down to one thing: either you support all gun rights or you don't. Fence-sitting is for crybabies.

 

[KG1]

It all boils down to one thing: either you support all gun rights or you don't. Fence-sitting is for crybabies.

Sig worthy.

 

[357 Terms]

It all boils down to one thing: either you support all gun rights or you don't. Fence-sitting is for crybabies.​

The problem with this sentiment is that a lot of those "crybabies" who sit on the fence will jump to the other side when they see some jackass with an assualt rifle next to them while they are trying to eat a burrito.

The "activists" seem to do the most damage, and then cry the loudest when their actions backfire.

 

[88GT]

The problem with this sentiment is that a lot of those "crybabies" who sit on the fence will jump to the other side when they see some jackass with an assualt rifle next to them while they are trying to eat a burrito.

The "activists" seem to do the most damage, and then cry the loudest when their actions backfire.

This post makes you one of those fence-sitters.

 

[357 Terms]

And yours makes you one of those "activists".