Carrying at a school sporting event not being held on school grounds

[yeti rider]

Is that still a no go, or is that some sort of grey area?

 

[mrortega]

Is that still a no go, or is that some sort of grey area?

Still a no-go.

 

[Mr. Habib]

Not on school grounds, carry as you wish.

 

[voidsherpa]

This is what I love about INGO.

Still a no-go.

or

Not on school grounds, carry as you wish.

Now which one of you two is entirely wrong?

 

[Ruffnek]

My pea-brain seems to think that it'd be a no-go because Indiana law would treat it as a school. However, locking it in the car in the parking lot would seem to be ok since that can be done at a regular "brick and mortar" (or crappy 'recycled' material if you went to Eastern like me) school.

 

[Bapak2ja]

My pea-brain seems to think that it'd be a no-go because Indiana law would treat it as a school. However, locking it in the car in the parking lot would seem to be ok since that can be done at a regular "brick and mortar" (or crappy 'recycled' material if you went to Eastern like me) school.

This.

 

[JMoses]

You can do like the open carrier did at my daughter's school play and walk around with an empty holster.

 

[OutdoorDad]

It never occurred to me that a "school function" off property would become a school under this law.

What about a field trip to the museum. Is that now a school as well? Or my own house if I'm logged on to a virtual classroom experience?

 

[lonehoosier]

Senate Bill 229 fixed the whole roaming school zone.

"school property meansa building or other structure owned or rented by a school that is beingused exclusively by the school for a school function and does notinclude parking lots adjacent to and owned or rented in common withthe building or other structure"

 

[Bill of Rights]

It never occurred to me that a "school function" off property would become a school under this law.

What about a field trip to the museum. Is that now a school as well? Or my own house if I'm logged on to a virtual classroom experience?

This also would be an "it depends". For example, the Indianapolis Children's Museum is technically a school in and of itself.

ETA:

IC 35-47-9-2 Version b
Possession of a firearm on school property
Note: This version of section amended by P.L.168-2014, SEC.89. See also preceding version of this section amended by P.L.157-2014, SEC.5. Sec. 2. A person who knowingly or intentionally possesses a firearm:

(1) in or on school property; or
(2) on a school bus; commits a Level 6 felony.
​

As added by P.L.140-1994, SEC.11. Amended by P.L.172-2013, SEC.13; P.L.158-2013, SEC.601; P.L.168-2014, SEC.89.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

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Yeti, the controlling question is "where" is this event being held?

Tell us, some of us are Lafayette locals.

 

[SmileDocHill]

So for us non lawyers. ..It sounds like the difference is whether the place is used AS a school or FOR a school f(x). The latter of which would be a random occurrence and the former would be something you could look up before going.

Is this reasonable logic?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

It sounds like the difference is whether the place is used AS a school or FOR a school f(x). The latter of which would be a random occurrence and the former would be something you could look up before going.

Is this reasonable logic?

Used to be. What is controlling is the location, not the function.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Used to be. What is controlling is the location, not the function.

You're saying, I think, a Orbit League Youth soccer game and Bedford North Lawrence High School soccer field = no guns. A Orbit League Youth soccer game at the Otis Park (city park) soccer fields =/= no guns.

 

[miguel]

You can do like the open carrier did at my daughter's school play and walk around with an empty holster.

That's ****ing epic!

p.s. I am not an OC guy, but love the dick nature of the move.

 

[Mr. Habib]

I go the open carry holster route every time I'm forced to disarm at my daughter's school or the school where my wife works. No one has ever said a word.
Just curious, why do you feel it's a dick move?

 

[yeti rider]

Yeti, the controlling question is "where" is this event being held?

Tell us, some of us are Lafayette locals.

It would appear that it is on school grounds owned by Carmel schools. I guess the question is invalid now. I thought it was at a public (city owned) park

 

[Bill of Rights]

That's ****ing epic!

p.s. I am not an OC guy, but love the dick nature of the move.

I go the open carry holster route every time I'm forced to disarm at my daughter's school or the school where my wife works. No one has ever said a word.
Just curious, why do you feel it's a dick move?

I kinda wondered that also, Miguel.

People with Students for Concealed Carry on Campus have been doing "empty holster protests" on college campuses for quite a while. I don't know how effective that tactic has been, but more places are "not forbidding" the practice of carry there since those started, if OCDO maps are any indication. I'm just not sure if those protests nudged the change or if people are slowly coming to their senses after such events as Va Tech, or if it's a combination of both, and maybe still other factors.

http://apps.opencarry.org/images/collegecarrymap.png

The empty holster, as I see it, is saying, "I'm one of the good guys... I would have been here to help if some disillusioned assbag decided to do harm, but I'm forbidden to do so by law." It was designed as a form of protest for people to get an idea of, "oh. HE carries? Huh. I'd not have guessed that. But that's cool-he's always been such a good student, etc." It was supposed to challenge people's perceptions.

And of course... no one needs a license to carry a holster.

Blessings,
Bill

 

[Mr. Habib]

What I find interesting and a bit disconcerting are the times when I'm at some athletic event at my wife's school. Typically, I'll be wearing a jacket or hoodie that only covers the top of my holster and mag carriers. There is no way to visually tell that I'm not carrying. Yet in all of the times I've walked around looking like a MWAG not one person has stopped or questioned me. Not even the local LEOs that I stop and chat with.

 

[eldirector]

I have been wondering the same thing as the OP for a bit now. Events at the actual school are easy. Events at the local town-owned park? It is LESS grey than previously, but I am still not 100% sure.

The school certainly has exclusive use of that particular field, but not the whole park.