Kroger pharmacist carjacked

[burt gummer]

So I heard yesterday at my Kroger store a lady got carjacked in the parking lot around midnight, but read a email saying that it was a hit a run deal she was pulled from her car and a big police chase and the car was found in a ditch, luckily she is ok could have been worse, anybody hear about this? So I'm not surprised a few workers have some nice cars and of course the all powerful and crime protection cctv"s lol but I told my sisters they were a little freaked and my one sister said what is happening to Westfield and I said its Westfield people think it will never happen and a cop is on every corner, maybe in leave it to beaver, but Kinda bs that you can't carry as a worker, let the bad guys have whatever they want and take a chance that they won't kill u after, why does a company get to play with a workers life like that? What right do they have, I carry a blade but I'd rather have my 45 on my side. And decide that I will live rather then the bad guys.

 

[Spear Dane]

Given that they close at 9 I have to wonder why she was even still there.

 

[Lees]

Within the last year (I think) there were problems with robbers at the gas station by the Kroger in Westfield on 32. I don't know how many Krogers are in Westfield, but that might be the same one. And not long ago a man was beaten to death right there, too. It was the apartments right behind Kroger and drug-related, I heard.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

I was on a home invasion, but I heard a carjacking with apprehension come out around 0130 this morning. I'll look at it later and see.

That said, there have been some auto thefts set up via "accident". The suspect hits your vehicle in the back and when you get out to check the damage, an accomplice jumps in your car and drives off, then the person who hit you drove off.

 

[DRob]

I was on a home invasion, but I heard a carjacking with apprehension come out around 0130 this morning. I'll look at it later and see.

That said, there have been some auto thefts set up via "accident". The suspect hits your vehicle in the back and when you get out to check the damage, an accomplice jumps in your car and drives off, then the person who hit you drove off.

You will be able to ID my truck by the license plate or the bullet holes.

 

[Gluemanz28]

You will be able to ID my truck by the license plate or the bullet holes.

It's not a good shoot if all they are doing is stealing your sweet ride. Now if they were trying to back over you (wink wink) and your in fear of them killing you then by all means mag dump away.

 

[Bill of Rights]

I don't know, Glueman...

IC 35-41-3-2(d)

(d) A person:
(1) is justified in using reasonable force, including deadly force,
against any other person; and
(2) does not have a duty to retreat;
if the person reasonably believes that the force is necessary to
prevent or terminate the other person's unlawful entry of or attack on
the person's dwelling, curtilage, or occupied motor vehicle.

"He stole my car. He had unlawfully entered my car and now occupied it while he was stealing it. I had a reasonable belief that there was no other way to stop him."

Right there in the law.

Usual disclaimers apply: IANAL, IDPOOTV, IDSIAHIELN, and TINLA.

Blessings,
Bill

It's not a good shoot if all they are doing is stealing your sweet ride. Now if they were trying to back over you (wink wink) and your in fear of them killing you then by all means mag dump away.

 

[patience0830]

Given that they close at 9 I have to wonder why she was even still there.

Deliveries can come at odd times and often after or before business hours.

 

[firefighterjohn]

I was on a home invasion, but I heard a carjacking with apprehension come out around 0130 this morning. I'll look at it later and see.

That said, there have been some auto thefts set up via "accident". The suspect hits your vehicle in the back and when you get out to check the damage, an accomplice jumps in your car and drives off, then the person who hit you drove off.

Wow, gives new meaning to hit-n-run. Can never be too careful or be too anxious to jump out and see what happened.

 

[Gluemanz28]

I don't know, Glueman...



"He stole my car. He had unlawfully entered my car and now occupied it while he was stealing it. I had a reasonable belief that there was no other way to stop him."

Right there in the law.

Usual disclaimers apply: IANAL, IDPOOTV, IDSIAHIELN, and TINLA.

Blessings,
Bill

I read that to mean that I would have to occupy the vehicle while he was stealing it, for it to be considered a threat.

Shooting at someone for stealing my car as they are driving away isn't a risk I'm willing to take.
I could buy a really nice new Corvette what what I'd have to pay Guy to keep me out of the Gray Bar Hotel. Plus I tend to drop the soap a lot in the shower so........ um no I don't wanna go.

 

[Bill of Rights]

I think it matters less how you read it and more how your attorney can get the jury to read it.

FWIW, though, I agree. And I don't want to drop the soap, though I did get the idea one time to try and practice using my foot to slide the soap up the wall where I could reach it without bending over. Not planning any jail time, but with the Obama regime that was in power, who could predict what would be a crime tomorrow, y'know? So glad those days are almost a thing of the past.

Blessings,
Bill

I read that to mean that I would have to occupy the vehicle while he was stealing it, for it to be considered a threat.

Shooting at someone for stealing my car as they are driving away isn't a risk I'm willing to take.
I could buy a really nice new Corvette what what I'd have to pay Guy to keep me out of the Gray Bar Hotel. Plus I tend to drop the soap a lot in the shower so........ um no I don't wanna go.

 

[Alpo]

I was on a home invasion, but I heard a carjacking with apprehension come out around 0130 this morning. I'll look at it later and see.

Why were you apprehensive?

 

[Gluemanz28]

I think it matters less how you read it and more how your attorney can get the jury to read it.

FWIW, though, I agree. And I don't want to drop the soap, though I did get the idea one time to try and practice using my foot to slide the soap up the wall where I could reach it without bending over. Not planning any jail time, but with the Obama regime that was in power, who could predict what would be a crime tomorrow, y'know? So glad those days are almost a thing of the past.

Blessings,
Bill

I do agree about the jury's interpretation of the law theory, however the first line of defense is my interpretation.

I hope to make good enough decisions that I don't have to put my fate in the hands of jurors.

 

[Roland of Gilead]

I was on a home invasion, but I heard a carjacking with apprehension come out around 0130 this morning. I'll look at it later and see.

That said, there have been some auto thefts set up via "accident". The suspect hits your vehicle in the back and when you get out to check the damage, an accomplice jumps in your car and drives off, then the person who hit you drove off.

Was the home invasion random or criminal enterprise related? Just curious and hoping the random is rare.

 

[SmileDocHill]

Kroger west east of 31 on 32 and Carey or Kroger west of 31 around 161st and Spring Mill? I live within a mile of the spring mill one!

 

[Spear Dane]

It's not a good shoot if all they are doing is stealing your sweet ride. Now if they were trying to back over you (wink wink) and your in fear of them killing you then by all means mag dump away.

Didn't work out for that former U of Cinci officer.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Was the home invasion random or criminal enterprise related? Just curious and hoping the random is rare.

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Ongoing feud stemming from ex-gf/ex-bf drama.

 

[rhino]

It's not a good shoot if all they are doing is stealing your sweet ride. Now if they were trying to back over you (wink wink) and your in fear of them killing you then by all means mag dump away.

Ah, apparently you are unfamiliar with the shooting at the former Mike's Carwash on W 38th St in Indy more than 10 years ago (I think) wherein the Marine whose care was stolen capped-off rounds at the thief fleeing in his car. He was not prosecuted. Of note are 1) my best friend was there when it happened, and 2) that same marine got busted for dealing drugs later.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Ah, apparently you are unfamiliar with the shooting at the former Mike's Carwash on W 38th St in Indy more than 10 years ago (I think) wherein the Marine whose care was stolen capped-off rounds at the thief fleeing in his car. He was not prosecuted. Of note are 1) my best friend was there when it happened, and 2) that same marine got busted for dealing drugs later.

Depends.

Many folks are saved by being poor marksmen. No cooperating victim. Kill them, things may be different.

 

[rhino]

Depends.

Many folks are saved by being poor marksmen. No cooperating victim. Kill them, things may be different.

Yeah, I know you're right about that. In that case, I suspect that being a marine and the time period played a role.