CCW at the new airport (cont'd)

[Drail]

Howdy kids. I started this thread a week ago about the legality or not of CCW at the new airport and during my work travels since then I now believe it is verboten. Every door I passed through was posted "NO WEAPONS" with a outline of a pistol and a knife with a diagonal line slashed through it. Anybody know when and where this came from?

[pmpmstrb]

They can post as many signs or stickers as they want, but in Indiana they don't mean squat. The only point of the sign is to tell people their position on guns. All they can do is ask you to leave and if you refuse, then they can have you arrested for trespassing.

[ralphb72]

Can they? Is a public airport or a private airport? I would think if it is public property they would not be able to have you trespassed for not obeying a sign that has no legal meaning.

[pmpmstrb]

I would think that all airports are private as they are a business. They can ask you to leave for any reason at any time. In this case the reason would be for carrying a "weapon". If you fail to leave after being asked it would be considered trespassing, but merely having a "weapon" is not grounds for anything other then sheeple panicking. As long as it isn't federal property (post office, city county building), school property, or behind the metal detectors at the airport you can carry anywhere you want to.

[ralphb72]

I understand what you are saying and agree, AND I know that in Indiana cities and towns can pass a law banning carry on "The property that they own, ie parks, city hall etc.. BUT look at the quote below, this says it is a municipal corporation, is that stuck in the cracks somewhere? Since they are municipal corp, does that make it private property that they can control, public property that they cannot, or public property which "someone" could legally pass a law banning carry there?



INDIANAPOLIS AIRPORT AUTHORITY
Established as a municipal corporation by the General Assembly in 1962, the Indianapolis Airport Authority (IAA) owns, develops, and operates six airports in the Indianapolis metropolitan area. They include Indianapolis International Airport, Metropolitan Airport, Mt. Comfort Airport, Eagle Creek Airpark, Hendricks County Airport–Gordon Graham Field, and the Downtown Heliport.

The IAA is governed by a board of eight voting members appointed by the mayor of Indianapolis and officials from Marion and Hendricks counties. The board also has three non-voting members representing Hamilton, Hancock and Morgan counties.

2008 MEETING SCHEDULE
The IAA Board of Directors meets twice monthly at 8:30 a.m. in the Board Room on the second floor of the terminal. Meeting dates are subject to change. The schedule through the end of the year is:

— September 5, September 19
— October 3, October 17
— November 21
— December 5, December 19

Download meeting agendas, documents, and other information.

source:

Indianapolis International Airport (Indianapolis Airport)

[Drail]

I think the city owns the property and the airport authority is responsible for operating it. Recently the TSA has shown interest in claiming that they can override state laws concerning weapons in airports (secure and non secure areas). This is going on currently at the Atlanta airport. I think the TSA is going to try and possibly be able to ban CCW at every U.S. airport unless the Supreme Court gets involved. I have also read the TSA is testing devices and have been searching people who are not passengers in the non secured areas of some airports. Should be interesting to see how this goes.

[jediagh]

Does anyone know if there has ever been an incident (eg. shoot-out) at an airport?


If I were a criminal an airport would not be where I would go do a crime right now anyways since there is already so much security there. Off course with the proposed "gun free" airport I'm sure that would change.

When do you think the other side will understand this?

[rhino]

They can ask you to leave, but since it's public property, you don't have to leave.

If guns aren't allowed, how are people going to get them from their vehicle to the check-in desk when they check them in their baggage? This isn't Chicago or New York.

[ralphb72]

So if it is public property, can the "authority" pass an ordinance banning carry there? I looked through their agendas and minutes and they pass their own "ordinances" their "board" seems to include the Mayor of Indy at least I saw his name on a couple of things. I think it would take a lawyer to figure it out but that's a good question Rhino, how would you get it to check in?

[CarmelHP]

Call the Mayor's office and demand an answer. Seriously. Ballard will be hanging on by a thread as it is. He better be doing some constituent services.