Accidental Discharge when OC/CC?

[jstwrit]

There are many opinions on how to carry... chambered "one in the pipe" or unchambered. I am wondering if anyone knows of or has had an accidental discharge while carrying chambered. I could see a discharge while moving a weapon in/out of proper holstering, but it just firing is what I'm after.

[m2hoss]

I'd think if you had some kind of abrupt motion in a firearm without a safety to block the firing pin something could happen. But I haven't read or heard anything about it happening. I'd say most of the people that say "it just went off" are full of it and just making excuses for negligence.

[showngocrx19]

I CARRY WITH ONE IN THE PIPE ALWAYS. HAVENT HAD ONE DISCHARGE YET

[jstwrit]

My Walther PPS has a Glock style safety. It seems I read alot of should I?/shouldn't I? questions when IMO there just aren't enough accidentals to justify not carrying chambered. Thoughts???

[melensdad]

Originally Posted by jstwrit

There are many opinions on how to carry... chambered "one in the pipe" or unchambered. I am wondering if anyone knows of or has had an accidental discharge while carrying chambered. I could see a discharge while moving a weapon in/out of proper holstering, but it just firing is what I'm after.

First off, I've been carrying on and off for roughly 20 years, ALWAYS with a bullet in the chamber. Started out carrying a S&W SA/DA pistol, switched over to a 1911 pattern gun and have been carrying a 1911 for roughly 15 years, always "cocked & locked."

Secondly, keep your finger off the trigger when taking the gun out of the holster and it will not fire. If I have to take my gun out of my holster while going to the bathroom or something like that then I don't put my finger on the trigger. Its NEVER been a problem.

Originally Posted by jstwrit

My Walther PPS has a Glock style safety. It seems I read alot of should I?/shouldn't I? questions when IMO there just aren't enough accidentals to justify not carrying chambered. Thoughts???

With the PPS or the Glock the only safe way to carry is in a holster. Never open pocket or bag (purse) carry. No, there is no problem with AD/ND if you carry properly and keep your finger off the trigger.

[Prometheus]

I'm not aware of a 'accidental discharge' ever happening with a modern firearm.

There are plenty of NEGLIGENT discharges.

No, I've never had a ND while carrying openly or concealed.

I've only had one ND and it was at a range and the rifle was pointed down range. Proper muzzle awareness sent the round harmless into the berm, while the range was still hot. Strangest thing that's ever happened to me. My AK went 'click', I removed the mag, racked the bolt to check the chamber and pulled the trigger to drop the hammer before putting it up... BANG! I still have no idea how a round got in the chamber. As I said, I'm the only one who knew it since the range was hot. Really doubled my attention to checking AND keeping the muzzle in the proper direction.

[Disposable Heart]

You aint in Israel, carry one in the pipe.

The key here is what Prometheus said: HUGE difference between accidents and negligence. Always test the gun's safeties (with it unloaded) before carrying the gun (not necessarily every time, but after each shooting session) and always have a holster designed for the weapon (as an improper one can cause an ND).

Dont horse with it or "show everyone" the gun and keep safety a priority!

[SMiller]

I try to make sure my untucked shirt doesn't go into my holster with my hot M+P, it could pull the trigger and pop a hole in the ground, I really don't want that attention.

[thompal]

Originally Posted by melensdad

First off, I've been carrying on and off for roughly 20 years, ALWAYS with a bullet in the chamber. Started out carrying a S&W SA/DA pistol, switched over to a 1911 pattern gun and have been carrying a 1911 for roughly 15 years, always "cocked & locked."

I've carried a 1911A1for almost 30 years, locked and loaded. Never had a problem. The new "decockers" make me REALLY nervous. I can too easily visualize which parts need to fail just that once to have an AD.

The only AD I've had was with a late 30's Mauser. I was showing someone the mechanics of the safety, had it pointed downrange, and pulled the trigger. Safety worked fine. So, I prepared to shoot, shouldered it, and as soon as a flipped the safety lever, it discharged. Since I didn't have it pulled firmly into my shoulder yet, it left a heck of a bruise.

[thompal]

Originally Posted by jstwrit

My Walther PPS has a Glock style safety. It seems I read alot of should I?/shouldn't I? questions when IMO there just aren't enough accidentals to justify not carrying chambered. Thoughts???

My opinion is that if your particular handgun has the POSSIBILITY of an AD, then it's too much of a risk. Think of the repercussions if you are in public, have an AD, and hit some kid. Not only morally, but legally.

I can hear the claimant's lawyer: "And did you check to make sure the manual safety was engaged?"

YOU: "my handgun doesn't have one."

LAWYER: "Oh, you chose to carry an UNSAFE HANDGUN?!"