Accidental Discharge when OC/CC?

[jstwrit]

There are many opinions on how to carry... chambered "one in the pipe" or unchambered. I am wondering if anyone knows of or has had an accidental discharge while carrying chambered. I could see a discharge while moving a weapon in/out of proper holstering, but it just firing is what I'm after.

[m2hoss]

I'd think if you had some kind of abrupt motion in a firearm without a safety to block the firing pin something could happen. But I haven't read or heard anything about it happening. I'd say most of the people that say "it just went off" are full of it and just making excuses for negligence.

[showngocrx19]

I CARRY WITH ONE IN THE PIPE ALWAYS. HAVENT HAD ONE DISCHARGE YET

[Marc]

Originally Posted by showngocrx19

I CARRY WITH ONE IN THE PIPE ALWAYS. HAVENT HAD ONE DISCHARGE YET

[Joe Williams]

Even pros screw up. Carrying a single action pistol with no manual safety with a round in the chamber is an extra risk. Some people have an inflated opinion of their infallibility, and think they will never make a mistake. Maybe they'll get lucky, maybe they'll follow in the footsteps of these professionals. One lost his son when a fellow officer blew his kid's head off, one merely destroyed his own reputation and became a laughing stock. Such things can and do happen with guns with heavy double action triggers or manual safeties, but it's harder to make such egregious errors. Carrying a single action gun with no manual safety chamber loaded just makes it too easy for a split second brain fart to become a tragedy, IMHO.

No charges in accidental shooting of Deptford cop's son - NJ.com

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[Agent 007]

Originally Posted by Joe Williams

Even pros screw up. Carrying a single action pistol with no manual safety with a round in the chamber is an extra risk. Some people have an inflated opinion of their infallibility, and think they will never make a mistake. Maybe they'll get lucky, maybe they'll follow in the footsteps of these professionals. One lost his son when a fellow officer blew his kid's head off, one merely destroyed his own reputation and became a laughing stock. Such things can and do happen with guns with heavy double action triggers or manual safeties, but it's harder to make such egregious errors. Carrying a single action gun with no manual safety chamber loaded just makes it too easy for a split second brain fart to become a tragedy, IMHO.

No charges in accidental shooting of Deptford cop's son - NJ.com

YouTube - DEA AGENT SHOOTS OWN FOOT

The VAST majority of airline pilots over their multi-decade careers have never run a jetliner into the ground...even before computers helped out with the flight controls. I would think that the average 727 is a tad more complicated than your run of the mill semiauto pistol. Perhaps they are just getting lucky. Like the overwhelming majority of police officers and agents who carry and handle firearms every day and manage to never kill any innocent people in decades long careers. Lots of lucky ducklings out there.

And that DEA agent is hardly a professional. That seems to be quite obvious to me.

[seawolfxix]

Originally Posted by Agent 007

And that DEA agent is hardly a professional. That seems to be quite obvious to me.

QFT

Why was his finger on the trigger in the first place?


I am confident that my XD will never have an AD. It seems to be engineered very well.

[jstwrit]

My Walther PPS has a Glock style safety. It seems I read alot of should I?/shouldn't I? questions when IMO there just aren't enough accidentals to justify not carrying chambered. Thoughts???

[thompal]

Originally Posted by jstwrit

My Walther PPS has a Glock style safety. It seems I read alot of should I?/shouldn't I? questions when IMO there just aren't enough accidentals to justify not carrying chambered. Thoughts???

My opinion is that if your particular handgun has the POSSIBILITY of an AD, then it's too much of a risk. Think of the repercussions if you are in public, have an AD, and hit some kid. Not only morally, but legally.

I can hear the claimant's lawyer: "And did you check to make sure the manual safety was engaged?"

YOU: "my handgun doesn't have one."

LAWYER: "Oh, you chose to carry an UNSAFE HANDGUN?!"

[Agent 007]

Originally Posted by thompal

My opinion is that if your particular handgun has the POSSIBILITY of an AD, then it's too much of a risk. Think of the repercussions if you are in public, have an AD, and hit some kid. Not only morally, but legally.

I can hear the claimant's lawyer: "And did you check to make sure the manual safety was engaged?"

YOU: "my handgun doesn't have one."

LAWYER: "Oh, you chose to carry an UNSAFE HANDGUN?!"

Yeah, because negligent discharges are IMPOSSIBLE with a manual safety equipped pistol. The Titanic is unsinkable, too.

So what you are saying is that gun owners are too stupid to own and carry pistols and revolvers without manual safeties, since they are unsafe and inevitably cause negligent discharges, right? Too much of a risk? Sounds like you'd be better off in California, where the benevolent liberal lawmakers protect you from yourself by mandating magazine disconnects and safety switches to protect you and others from yourself. After all, who knows more about gun safety than Barbara Boxer and Nancy Pelosi? Remember, it's for the children.

Amazing that I've been carrying revolvers and pistols without manual safeties for all these years and have never had a negligent discharge.

Kinda makes me feel like Riverdancing.

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