What do I do? - Page 2

Alegre · 07-03-2009

Here's my thread on the very same issue. I will be seeing my Doc this month......we'll see how that goes.

Keep us posted!

http://ingunowners.com/forums/carry_...al_health.html

Jack Ryan · 07-03-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by koveras225

Now my application is hung up because they want a recommendation from my doctor... which despite all my efforts, I've been completely unable to get. In fact, I haven't even been able to talk to my doctor for the last two months! I've had three appointments canceled on her end this month alone, and despite having told them multiple times that I need that recommendation, I've yet to even get so much as a phone call about it.

That sounds like an answer to me.

koveras225 · 07-03-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by esrice

So what exactly has to happen? She has to re-examine you and give you a written and signed clean bill of mental health?

I'm not entirely sure, but there's no reason why she (or any other doctor at that) wouldn't give me a 'clean bill of mental health'. It's only Asperger's... I'm no different than a 'normal' person except to when it comes to my thought process (very logical, abstracts are pretty much a foreign concept).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Six Forty-Two

Just curious, what do you plan on doing if the doctor doesn't write a favorable letter for you? Do you have a good relationship with her? Maybe the appointments were canceled because she doesn't want to write the letter for you for any of a multitude of reasons.

I have no idea what to do if she doesn't, although I have no reason to think that she won't - I've discussed it briefly with her before and I didn't notice a negative reaction at least. As far as the appointments go though, the only reason I know of for the cancellations is that she was not feeling well. Which is fine, I can't really argue with that... but the complete lack of response as far as the recommendation goes has got me incredibly frustrated.

Hoping to hear from them by next Tuesday at the latest though...

paddling_man · 07-04-2009

You should strongly, strongly consider seeing another doctor. Not to "sneak" something past a potential "bad recommendation" from your current doctor - just, simply put, you may have seen her before but if she won't respond to any calls one could safely assume she is NOT your doctor any longer.

It's not what you want to hear. You had a plan in mind with a logical progression and a planned date of fruition. This is more than a roadblock. This is an absolute "no-go" so you need to develop a new plan. That new strategy should include a doctor whom is responsive to your needs.

Best of luck!

dice dealer · 07-04-2009

You are kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place , on one hand you need to stay on the doctor to get them to take care of it , but on the other hand if you ride the doctors backside to hard you could piss her of and she will tell them your Nuckin Futs ...

Maybe you should go to the office in person and tell them I just need like 2 min of the doc's time to get her to sign a form for me .???

Whatever you do about it

Good Luck

XDs4me · 07-04-2009

The state can be pretty tuff when it comes to the mental status question. If you are being treated for a condition with meds and it is under control it is a good chance your permit will be denied. If you were diagnosed with the simplest form of a mental disorder but havent seen a doctor in a while it could be denied. This happened to a buddy of mine. He was given a perscription for anxiety 6 years earlier, filled the percription only once never even finished the perscription and was denioed due to the fact he was diagnosed with anxiety. GOOD LUCK

LPMan59 · 07-04-2009

i was treated for depression when i was in college. i hadnt seen the doc in over 5 years. i checked the box and called the doc (who is in another state). he faxed the letter to my local PD. the ISP took a bit longer to approve my license because of the letter, but they did eventually. just because you check the box doesnt mean you will get denied.

PappyD · 07-05-2009

Is it possible/doable to find out what needs to be said on the form?

I would think "most" MD's would run as fast as they can from any statement that may, in the future, put them in a position of liability for anything.

That is the state of medical care today. Blood sucking lawsuits from ambulance chasers. (rant)

I would believe the state is looking for some sort of "release from care" with a good prognosis. Not so sure I would tell the MD office what the purpose of the note/letter would be other than an update on your status. If you said "gun permit" I'd bet that your paperwork would sit idle on the doc's desk.

Another strategy would be to get an assessment done with another provider (MD) that would "prove" that you are as normal as the next guy. Assessments run about $150 or so. So, short of getting the original MD to give you the OK, the 2nd assessment might be the way to go.

I would really focus on the wording needed and in this case, less is more. Kind of a "fit for duty" description. No one else, except for you, is going to want to stick their neck out, so to speak, so a logical course is to make it as easy as possible for the paperwork to get signed, etc.

Good luck!

koveras225 · 07-11-2009

Just a little update...

I didn't hear a thing from them all week. So I called yesterday and asked if the doctor was in - big surprise, she was out sick. Apparently has been in for one appointment all week.

She's been sick, I get it. But I have my needs. So basically what I'm going to do is call and attempt to make one last appointment on Monday. If I can't get in, or don't receive a response to my request within two weeks (by July 27), I'm going to ask if she can recommend another doctor and move on.

Of course that will probably push my obtaining the recommendation back even more, I doubt a new doctor will just write something like that without seeing me a few times first. But I don't see any other way.

I did get my father to stick a note on my application when he was at work last night (he's a part time dispatcher)... Let them know my doctor has been ill and that I'm still working on obtaining the recommendation.

koveras225 · 07-30-2009

And another update...

I finally got in to see my doctor... everything is sorted out now. I had the note within 10 minutes of going in, with only a few questions. It got dropped off at the police department today and I'll be going back in a week to hopefully get it sent off to the state police.

07-04-2009	#14 (permalink)
paddling_man Virtus Junxit Mors Non Seperabit Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Group W Bench (Fishers) Posts: 1,428	You should strongly, strongly consider seeing another doctor. Not to "sneak" something past a potential "bad recommendation" from your current doctor - just, simply put, you may have seen her before but if she won't respond to any calls one could safely assume she is NOT your doctor any longer. It's not what you want to hear. You had a plan in mind with a logical progression and a planned date of fruition. This is more than a roadblock. This is an absolute "no-go" so you need to develop a new plan. That new strategy should include a doctor whom is responsive to your needs. Best of luck! __________________

07-04-2009	#15 (permalink)
dice dealer Sharpshooter Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: southern harrison county Posts: 955	You are kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place , on one hand you need to stay on the doctor to get them to take care of it , but on the other hand if you ride the doctors backside to hard you could piss her of and she will tell them your Nuckin Futs ... Maybe you should go to the office in person and tell them I just need like 2 min of the doc's time to get her to sign a form for me .??? Whatever you do about it Good Luck __________________ This is were my signature was before the new rules

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LPMan59 Colt Kool-Aid Drinker Join Date: May 2009 Location: Central Indiana Posts: 920	i was treated for depression when i was in college. i hadnt seen the doc in over 5 years. i checked the box and called the doc (who is in another state). he faxed the letter to my local PD. the ISP took a bit longer to approve my license because of the letter, but they did eventually. just because you check the box doesnt mean you will get denied. __________________ Dream another dream; this dream is over.

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07-03-2009	#11 (permalink)
Alegre Plinker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Lake Station Posts: 73	Here's my thread on the very same issue. I will be seeing my Doc this month......we'll see how that goes. Keep us posted! http://ingunowners.com/forums/carry_...al_health.html

07-04-2009	#16 (permalink)
XDs4me Plinker Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NW Indiana Posts: 149	The state can be pretty tuff when it comes to the mental status question. If you are being treated for a condition with meds and it is under control it is a good chance your permit will be denied. If you were diagnosed with the simplest form of a mental disorder but havent seen a doctor in a while it could be denied. This happened to a buddy of mine. He was given a perscription for anxiety 6 years earlier, filled the percription only once never even finished the perscription and was denioed due to the fact he was diagnosed with anxiety. GOOD LUCK

07-05-2009	#18 (permalink)
PappyD Plinker Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Indy northside Posts: 120	Is it possible/doable to find out what *needs to be said* on the form? I would think "most" MD's would run as fast as they can from any statement that may, in the future, put them in a position of liability for anything. That is the state of medical care today. Blood sucking lawsuits from ambulance chasers. (rant) I would believe the state is looking for some sort of "release from care" with a good prognosis. Not so sure I would tell the MD office what the purpose of the note/letter would be other than an update on your status. If you said "gun permit" I'd bet that your paperwork would sit idle on the doc's desk. Another strategy would be to get an assessment done with another provider (MD) that would "prove" that you are as normal as the next guy. Assessments run about $150 or so. So, short of getting the original MD to give you the OK, the 2nd assessment might be the way to go. I would really focus on the wording needed and in this case, less is more. Kind of a "fit for duty" description. No one else, except for you, is going to want to stick their neck out, so to speak, so a logical course is to make it as easy as possible for the paperwork to get signed, etc. Good luck!

07-11-2009	#19 (permalink)
koveras225 Plinker Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Noble County Posts: 123	Just a little update... I didn't hear a thing from them all week. So I called yesterday and asked if the doctor was in - big surprise, she was out sick. Apparently has been in for one appointment all week. She's been sick, I get it. But I have my needs. So basically what I'm going to do is call and attempt to make one last appointment on Monday. If I can't get in, or don't receive a response to my request within two weeks (by July 27), I'm going to ask if she can recommend another doctor and move on. Of course that will probably push my obtaining the recommendation back even more, I doubt a new doctor will just write something like that without seeing me a few times first. But I don't see any other way. I did get my father to stick a note on my application when he was at work last night (he's a part time dispatcher)... Let them know my doctor has been ill and that I'm still working on obtaining the recommendation.

07-30-2009	#20 (permalink)
koveras225 Plinker Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Noble County Posts: 123	And another update... I finally got in to see my doctor... everything is sorted out now. I had the note within 10 minutes of going in, with only a few questions. It got dropped off at the police department today and I'll be going back in a week to hopefully get it sent off to the state police.