What do I do?

koveras225 · 07-03-2009

When I can't get my LTCH application past the CLEO...

This is turning into a huge headache... I went in to apply on June 1st, filled it all out, paid the local fees, fingerprints... and I checked yes for the question that reads "Have you ever been treated for psychiatric health care or an emotional or mental illness?"

Now my application is hung up because they want a recommendation from my doctor... which despite all my efforts, I've been completely unable to get. In fact, I haven't even been able to talk to my doctor for the last two months! I've had three appointments canceled on her end this month alone, and despite having told them multiple times that I need that recommendation, I've yet to even get so much as a phone call about it.

So here I am, with $50 sunk into an application that hasn't even made it past the CLEO, and at a complete loss as to what I need to do to get it moving in a positive direction.

It's not like I should have any problems either... I've never been in trouble with the law, I've never been so much as delayed on a NICS check... and I have my C&R FFL on top of it all.

2cool9031 · 07-03-2009

I think you are stuck for now....till you see the doctor.
Does it always pay to tell the truth? I know what I would be thinking......I should have checked NO. I didn't lie....I just forgot.

Annie · 07-03-2009

Wait a sec... It's been a while since I applied, but is the question really "treated" for mental stuff? Or is it "have you been adjudicated" with them? Big difference.
But anyhow, which was it?

koveras225 · 07-03-2009

It's worded exactly as I have it above... it really threw me off when I was filling it out as I was expecting "adjudicated" myself (and I can honestly answer no to that one)...

Application for Handgun License
^pretty much identical to the paper form...

Annie · 07-03-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by koveras225

It's worded exactly as I have it above... it really threw me off when I was filling it out as I was expecting "adjudicated" myself (and I can honestly answer no to that one)...

Application for Handgun License
^pretty much identical to the paper form...

Wow. I believe that is changed from previous forms...
Anyone? Anyone?? Bueller?

Manan · 07-03-2009

Never, never, never, never lie on the application form under any circumstances or for any reason.

Even if you could get by with it, as soon as you were involved in any sort of self defense or other use of your weapon situation in the future, you know the investigation that would ensue. Particularly by the "other" party's attorneys. You would and should be prosecuted for lying. Remember Martha Stewart? Innocent on everything except lying. She went to jail.

Do the right thing and get pushy with your Doctor.

esrice · 07-03-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manan

Do the right thing and get pushy with your Doctor.

Yep. Make them WANT to help you. A phone call a day will do that.

koveras225 · 07-03-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manan

Do the right thing and get pushy with your Doctor.

Quote:

Originally Posted by esrice

Yep. Make them WANT to help you. A phone call a day will do that.

Already got a headstart on that... talked to them today, said that if she can't see me in person, then she needs to get in touch with me over the phone. (And I do plan on calling them if I don't hear from her.)

I would just call her, but the schedule is NUTS!

Six Forty-Two · 07-03-2009

Just curious, what do you plan on doing if the doctor doesn't write a favorable letter for you? Do you have a good relationship with her? Maybe the appointments were canceled because she doesn't want to write the letter for you for any of a multitude of reasons.

esrice · 07-03-2009

So what exactly has to happen? She has to re-examine you and give you a written and signed clean bill of mental health?

07-03-2009	#1 (permalink)
koveras225 Plinker Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Noble County Posts: 123	What do I do? When I can't get my LTCH application past the CLEO... This is turning into a huge headache... I went in to apply on June 1st, filled it all out, paid the local fees, fingerprints... and I checked yes for the question that reads "Have you ever been treated for psychiatric health care or an emotional or mental illness?" Now my application is hung up because they want a recommendation from my doctor... which despite all my efforts, I've been completely unable to get. In fact, I haven't even been able to talk to my doctor for the last two months! I've had three appointments canceled on her end this month alone, and despite having told them multiple times that I need that recommendation, I've yet to even get so much as a phone call about it. So here I am, with $50 sunk into an application that hasn't even made it past the CLEO, and at a complete loss as to what I need to do to get it moving in a positive direction. It's not like I should have any problems either... I've never been in trouble with the law, I've never been so much as delayed on a NICS check... and I have my C&R FFL on top of it all.

07-03-2009	#2 (permalink)
2cool9031 They Call Me...Sniper Bob Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chesterton Posts: 683	I think you are stuck for now....till you see the doctor. Does it always pay to tell the truth? I know what I would be thinking......I should have checked NO. I didn't lie....I just forgot. __________________ I am whatever you say I am...If I wasn't, why would I say I am?

07-03-2009	#3 (permalink)
Annie Master Join Date: May 2008 Location: N/E Corner Posts: 2,843	Wait a sec... It's been a while since I applied, but is the question really "treated" for mental stuff? Or is it "have you been adjudicated" with them? Big difference. But anyhow, which was it? __________________ ~No matter how responsible she seems, never give a monkey your gun.~ Now yer as smart as I am~Jay

07-03-2009	#6 (permalink)
Manan Plinker Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 161	Never, never, never, never lie on the application form under any circumstances or for any reason. Even if you could get by with it, as soon as you were involved in any sort of self defense or other use of your weapon situation in the future, you know the investigation that would ensue. Particularly by the "other" party's attorneys. You would and should be prosecuted for lying. Remember Martha Stewart? Innocent on everything except lying. She went to jail. Do the right thing and get pushy with your Doctor. __________________

07-03-2009	#10 (permalink)
esrice INGO Diplomat Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Southside, Indianapolis Posts: 6,939	So what exactly has to happen? She has to re-examine you and give you a written and signed clean bill of mental health? __________________ Helpful Links for Newbies Forum Rules: http://ingunowners.com/forums/introd...e_posting.html Classifieds Rules: http://ingunowners.com/forums/firear...e_posting.html INGO FAQ (recommended): http://ingunowners.com/forums/genera...qs_sticky.html

07-03-2009	#4 (permalink)
koveras225 Plinker Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Noble County Posts: 123	It's worded exactly as I have it above... it really threw me off when I was filling it out as I was expecting "adjudicated" myself (and I can honestly answer no to that one)... Application for Handgun License ^pretty much identical to the paper form...

07-03-2009	#9 (permalink)
Six Forty-Two Plinker Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 59	Just curious, what do you plan on doing if the doctor doesn't write a favorable letter for you? Do you have a good relationship with her? Maybe the appointments were canceled because she doesn't want to write the letter for you for any of a multitude of reasons.

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