What is your threshold? - Page 3

obijohn · 05-06-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigcraig

I would need to be in the "moment" to make a decision. Sure we can all give examples and quote our personal mantra on what we would do, but every situation is different.

For me there are no set guidelines, other than staying within the law, as I will do what I must to prevail. If that involves running like a schoolgirl or placing a shot in the "triangle of death", then thats what I would do.

well said,big craig.

Yamaha · 05-07-2008

I've thought about this many times. I know what it would be once I'm an officer, any credible threat against my own or someone else's life. I also feel thats already the case as a ccw holder. If my gun is drawn, they better listen to commands, if they do something stupid like reach or go to charge, the threat will not stop receiving lead until said threat is neutralized. I carry 35 rounds with me always, so thats a lot of neutralizing.

Andrew

Ri22o · 05-08-2008

We all know Feign's threshold, and it involves the 'dongers' at WalMart.

Fenway · 05-08-2008

a lot of neutralizing is right. :do2:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yamaha

I carry 35 rounds with me always, so thats a lot of neutralizing.

Andrew

Yamaha · 05-09-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fenway

a lot of neutralizing is right. :do2:

yea, considering the grouping I put down at 40yds at popguns, I might be able to safely travel through ft. wayne.....

no wait, I need a pair of g17C's, 8 33rd mags, and converted to full auto for that......

Andrew

Fenway · 05-09-2008

Sounds like you might be able to face off against a former member here. He goes by "Mr. Glock" on youtube and he competes in "1 and done" competitions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yamaha

yea, considering the grouping I put down at 40yds at popguns, I might be able to safely travel through ft. wayne.....

W9ZEB · 05-09-2008

I'm pretty sure pops is 40 feet, not yards.

Fort Wayne can't be worse than Gary can it?

GetA2J · 05-09-2008

I was just in a situation where I had to consider this very question.
I was driving north on 41 in Terre Haute. There was an SUV in front of me driving slow in the left lane. I had just got around a fogger (read: diesel truck that likes to leave a big black cloud at every green light) and I didn’t want him to pass me. I found a break in traffic on my right, so I passed the slowpoke.
He got so mad he was shaking his fists at me and waving his arms in anger. I found this somewhat comical and I started clapping my hands (mocking him). At the next traffic light he actually got out of his SUV and came to my minivan and started beating on my driver’s window cussing and asking me if I thought it was funny. I told him YES I thought he was funny and that he should turn around and get back in his car.
All this commotion while my wife and one of her daycare kids were in my car. Because of my little passenger (we had just picked her up at her mother’s request) I did NOT want a violent confrontation, so I left my 1911 holstered. The light turned green and I drove on. In the next few blocks I recognized that the fogger (now next to me) and the hummer (in front of me) were all buddies of Mr. angry man. I took an opportunity to leave the (rocking chair) I found myself in just a couple of blocks later at an intersection.
In retrospect I have asked myself “did I feel threatened?” as a matter of fact I did but because he had on a pink tuxedo vest (I presume it was prom night) and because of my precious cargo I avoided confrontation. I also asked myself “If I were alone would I have handled it differently?” I must say that I err on the side of caution in most circumstances.
“If he had broken my window would I have reacted differently?” now there is a very difficult question. IF he had broken my window I may very well would have gotten out of my vehicle and things might have ended VERY different!

BloodEclipse · 05-09-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by GetA2J

I was just in a situation where I had to consider this very question.

He got so mad he was shaking his fists at me and waving his arms in anger. I found this somewhat comical and I started clapping my hands (mocking him).

This could be considered provoking and or participating and that eliminates your claim for self defense if I read the law correctly.

GetA2J · 05-09-2008

If that is the case then if I stick my tongue out at someone or flipp them off they are justified in attacking me????
I'm not buying into that mythology.

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05-07-2008	#22 (permalink)
Yamaha Marksman Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 340	I've thought about this many times. I know what it would be once I'm an officer, any credible threat against my own or someone else's life. I also feel thats already the case as a ccw holder. If my gun is drawn, they better listen to commands, if they do something stupid like reach or go to charge, the threat will not stop receiving lead until said threat is neutralized. I carry 35 rounds with me always, so thats a lot of neutralizing. Andrew

05-09-2008	#28 (permalink)
GetA2J Marksman Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Terre Haute,Indiana Posts: 579	I was just in a situation where I had to consider this very question. I was driving north on 41 in Terre Haute. There was an SUV in front of me driving slow in the left lane. I had just got around a fogger (read: diesel truck that likes to leave a big black cloud at every green light) and I didn’t want him to pass me. I found a break in traffic on my right, so I passed the slowpoke. He got so mad he was shaking his fists at me and waving his arms in anger. I found this somewhat comical and I started clapping my hands (mocking him). At the next traffic light he actually got out of his SUV and came to my minivan and started beating on my driver’s window cussing and asking me if I thought it was funny. I told him YES I thought he was funny and that he should turn around and get back in his car. All this commotion while my wife and one of her daycare kids were in my car. Because of my little passenger (we had just picked her up at her mother’s request) I did NOT want a violent confrontation, so I left my 1911 holstered. The light turned green and I drove on. In the next few blocks I recognized that the fogger (now next to me) and the hummer (in front of me) were all buddies of Mr. angry man. I took an opportunity to leave the (rocking chair) I found myself in just a couple of blocks later at an intersection. In retrospect I have asked myself “did I feel threatened?” as a matter of fact I did but because he had on a pink tuxedo vest (I presume it was prom night) and because of my precious cargo I avoided confrontation. I also asked myself “If I were alone would I have handled it differently?” I must say that I err on the side of caution in most circumstances. “If he had broken my window would I have reacted differently?” now there is a very difficult question. IF he had broken my window I may very well would have gotten out of my vehicle and things might have ended VERY different!

05-09-2008	#30 (permalink)
GetA2J Marksman Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Terre Haute,Indiana Posts: 579	If that is the case then if I stick my tongue out at someone or flipp them off they are justified in attacking me???? I'm not buying into that mythology.