Gun in school parking lot.

[Archaic_Entity]

Originally Posted by MolonLabe

Do you have a case cite to back that up? I'm not doubting you, just haven't been able to find it. There's nothing I found in the code which specifies that it's only K-12

This, at least, is the statute defining what is "School Grounds."


IC 35-41-1-24.7
"School property" defined
Sec. 24.7. "School property" means the following:
(1) A building or other structure owned or rented by:
(A) a school corporation;
(B) an entity that is required to be licensed under IC 12-17.2 or IC 31-27;
(C) a private school that is not supported and maintained by funds realized from the imposition of a tax on property, income, or sales; or
(D) a federal, state, local, or nonprofit program or service operated to serve, assist, or otherwise benefit children who are at least three (3) years of age and not yet enrolled in kindergarten, including the following:
(i) A Head Start program under 42 U.S.C. 9831 et seq.
(ii) A special education preschool program.
(iii) A developmental child care program for preschool children.
(2) The grounds adjacent to and owned or rented in common with a building or other structure described in subdivision (1).

If I'm reading that correctly, it does not apply to any sort of university or educational facility not directly tied to the K-12 and pre-k educational system.

[MolonLabe]

Originally Posted by Archaic_Entity

This, at least, is the statute defining what is "School Grounds."


IC 35-41-1-24.7
"School property" defined
Sec. 24.7. "School property" means the following:
(1) A building or other structure owned or rented by:
(A) a school corporation;
(B) an entity that is required to be licensed under IC 12-17.2 or IC 31-27;
(C) a private school that is not supported and maintained by funds realized from the imposition of a tax on property, income, or sales; or
(D) a federal, state, local, or nonprofit program or service operated to serve, assist, or otherwise benefit children who are at least three (3) years of age and not yet enrolled in kindergarten, including the following:
(i) A Head Start program under 42 U.S.C. 9831 et seq.
(ii) A special education preschool program.
(iii) A developmental child care program for preschool children.
(2) The grounds adjacent to and owned or rented in common with a building or other structure described in subdivision (1).

If I'm reading that correctly, it does not apply to any sort of university or educational facility not directly tied to the K-12 and pre-k educational system.

I think you may be wrong. Remember all the legal uproar in the past few years for kids wanting the legal right to carry guns on college campuses? I'm pretty sure its against the law still. I'll ask our staff attorney and try to get a solid answer backed up with either a case cite or an IC code.

[spartan933]

Originally Posted by rich8483

this pretty much sucks. i wont get into how i feel about them being gun free zones in the first place. really worked out for virginia tech.

If you are in highschool, that's one thing. They arguably have the right to search your vehicle and your locker without your consent.

However, if you are going to Purdue Cal or IUN, you should be okay leaving a gun in your car. I went to Purdue Cal and graduated a year ago, I never heard about or saw them searching any vehicle randomly. But, if you do leave a gun in your car at school, be aware that Purdue has had some car break-ins recently. Mostly on the 173rd St. parking lot. The garage should be okay. IUN has cops, everywhere.

[Scutter01]

Originally Posted by spartan933

If you are in highschool, that's one thing. They arguably have the right to search your vehicle and your locker without your consent.

Locker perhaps. Vehicle, oh you KNOW you better have a warrant.

[Annie]

Originally Posted by Scutter01

Locker perhaps. Vehicle, oh you KNOW you better have a warrant.

Debatable. I think it's in the pile of consent forms that you have to sign to have parking privileges. I don't know if every school has the same terms, but I doubt they're all that different.
YMMV

[techres]

Originally Posted by Scutter01

Locker perhaps. Vehicle, oh you KNOW you better have a warrant.

IIRC they do not need a warrant. They can impound the car and then "inventory it". The "inventory" will find the firearm and BAM! you have your conviction.

Park across the street.

[Archaic_Entity]

Originally Posted by techres

IIRC they do not need a warrant. They can impound the car and then "inventory it". The "inventory" will find the firearm and BAM! you have your conviction.

Park across the street.

If I remember correctly, at least in North Carolina, you absolutely sign away all privacy the second you're on school grounds. At least, as a student. I know they could search anything you owned that was on school grounds.

As for not being a student, I couldn't tell you for sure. My thought is that they could search it if they really wanted to. Or, like techres said, impound it then search, then you're convicted.

[INGunGuy]

And that my friends is why Indiana Code is so messed up....

INGunGuy

[rhino]

Originally Posted by INGunGuy

And that my friends is why Indiana Code is so messed up....

Absolutely.

This is why one of our highest legislative action priorities is to remove the section of the Indiana Code that invalidates our License to Carry Handgun on school grounds. It has to go and now!

[Bill of Rights]

Originally Posted by rhino

Absolutely.

This is why one of our highest legislative action priorities is to remove the section of the Indiana Code that invalidates our License to Carry Handgun on school grounds. It has to go and now!

Originally Posted by me

Absolutely.

This is why one of our highest legislative action priorities is to remove the sections of the Indiana Code that invalidate our License to Carry Handgun on school grounds anywhere. It has to go and now!

FTFY. Good to see you around, Rhino!

Blessings,
Bill