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Old 07-01-2008   #11 (permalink)
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I always thought the airport building was called a "terminal", too. Kinda like the train station, though the better comparison would likely be "platform"; the place where the people actually board the train.

If I'm understanding you, melensdad, you're saying that the actual gate areas are the "terminal". If I'm misunderstanding, please to correct, with my thanks.

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It is a bizarre language thing. I used to fly a couple dozen times a year and airports are all basically the same. In the old days, back when Indy and Chicago's O'Hare & Midway were smaller airports the ticketing area was physically the same building as the terminal area, but as the airports have grown (and I've not been through Indy in over 15 years so I'm not sure what it is like now) the 'terminal' area where you wait to board your plane is often a tram ride, or a very long walk away from the ticketing area. In airports like Las Vegas McCarren, Dallas-Ft Worth, or Atlanta's Hartsfield you actually board a small train and ride from the ticketing area to the terminal area. ONLY ticketed passengers are allowed past the ticket desk area and through security.

But while the buildings are physically different, the 'ticketing' area is still called the terminal. It is a terminal in name only, and only due to tradition because that is what it used to be called.

Chicago's O'Hare is one of the few major airports (2nd busiest in the world) that is mostly a walking airport. At O'Hare you walk from the ticketing area to the terminal building via hallways, some long and some short. There are several buildings and the buildings are connected by trains/trams but each building has its own ticketing area and from each ticketing area you then walk to the terminal area which is physically removed from the ticketing area by security checkpoints, etc. Again, under no circumstances can the public enter the terminal area. Only ticketed passengers are allowed past security into the terminal areas.


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Yeah, I thought the whole airport building was the terminal, too, not just the gate area. I was referring to the wording used in the article I read (posted above). It specifically mentioned that visitors to the airport wanted to be allowed to visit friends/family (passing through or picking up or dropping off) by eating at the restaurants or visiting the shops inside, but not necessarily pass through the security checkpoints into the gate areas.
Pami, like I said, you got suckered into using their definiton. We cannot allow anti-gunners to define the terms because we already know they have come up with terms like Assault Weapon, Saturday Night Special and Cop Killer bullets.
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It is a bizarre language thing. ...

But while the buildings are physically different, the 'ticketing' area is still called the terminal. It is a terminal in name only, and only due to tradition because that is what it used to be called. ...

Pami, like I said, you got suckered into using their definition. We cannot allow anti-gunners to define the terms because we already know they have come up with terms like Assault Weapon, Saturday Night Special and Cop Killer bullets.
Ok, fine. I got suckered into using anti-gunner definitions because that's what commercial airport buildings have been called for as long as I can remember. It's a moot point and doesn't matter to me really. Thank you for the clarification on the definition.

Here's the section of the article I was paraphrasing, which led me to use the word "terminal":
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The gun group argues that weapons should be allowed in the terminal up to the point where passengers pass through security to board their flights....

Atlanta Mayor Shirley Franklin said citizens can't bring guns into the terminal and argued that airports remain attractive targets for terrorism.

Allowing citizens to carry firearms "would create an environment that would endanger millions of people," she said.
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mmhmm.. It read very much as scare tactic reasoning to me, too.
In my humble opinion the Atlanta authorities are in the wrong based on this from the article "Atlanta Mayor Shirley Franklin said citizens can't bring guns into the terminal and argued that airports remain attractive targets for terrorism.
Allowing citizens to carry firearms "would create an environment that would endanger millions of people," she said.
Franklin said she will lobby Congress to withhold federal funds from facilities that allow firearms on their premises."

Anytime the bureaucrats do not get their way and are on shaky legal ground they threaten to pull your funding. The states give in, seatbelt enforcement, speed limits, drinking age etc.
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FoxNews has a similar poll but asks the question in a more simple, blunt manner. In the Fox poll over 63% of the people responded saying that they support the rights of gun owners to carry into the airport.

POLL IS ON THIS PAGE: MyFox Atlanta | Fox 5 News | WAGA
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