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Old 08-21-2008   #11 (permalink)
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American sportsmen shipped lots of sporting arms to the English during WWII so they could defend the homeland. They didn't have enough guns then either.
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what's the per-capita violent crime rate in England look like compared to the US?
I crunched the numbers a week or two ago... It's scary... I've gotta run now though so I'll post what I have when I get back (my b-day, going out tonight)
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American sportsmen shipped lots of sporting arms to the English during WWII so they could defend the homeland. They didn't have enough guns then either.

I've read the guns on "loan" were to be returned to the U.S. after the war, but were destroyed instead...........

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what's the per-capita violent crime rate in England look like compared to the US?
Alright... I survived... so here are those numbers...

From Crime in England and Wales 06/07 (Page 54)
There were an estimated 2,471,000 reported violent crimes committed against adults between Sep 06 and Sep 07. Using the population estimate of 60,943,912 by the CIA factbook in 2007, that calculates out to roughly 4052.8 incidents per 100,000 people.

The latest numbers I have for the US are from 2005... 469.2 per 100,000. Even Washington DC was only 1459.0 per 100,000.
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From Crime in England and Wales 06/07 (Page 54)
There were an estimated 2,471,000 reported violent crimes committed against adults between Sep 06 and Sep 07. Using the population estimate of 60,943,912 by the CIA factbook in 2007, that calculates out to roughly 4052.8 incidents per 100,000 people.

The latest numbers I have for the US are from 2005... 469.2 per 100,000. Even Washington DC was only 1459.0 per 100,000.
Wow, that's pretty scary. I'd like to visit the UK sometime, but I think I'll skip everything but Wales & Scotland.
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Wow, that's pretty scary. I'd like to visit the UK sometime, but I think I'll skip everything but Wales & Scotland.
I spent the summer traveling around England, Scotland and Wales and found it to be a very friendly and very safe place to travel. No different than I find the USA.

What I observed with crime in the U.K. is the same thing I observe with crime here in the USA. Crime and violence are generally associated with geographical pockets that are typically run down areas, typically have fatherless families, with single mothers raising kids at/near poverty levels, with gang influence and rampant drug abuse.

There, just like here, stay out of the bad neighborhoods and you will be fine. Only isolated violence seems to occur outside of those areas here and in the UK. Much of that violence involves crimes of passion or random robbery gone bad.

All that said, I think the laws there are crazy and while I enjoyed my extended visit, there is no way I'd want to live there
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Wait...so, a person in the UK is NOT allowed to defend themselves...at all?? If so, that's just completely wrong.
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