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05-14-2010
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| Expert  Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: IN
Posts: 1,903
     | Assisting a LEO when disarming you? Here's a thought... Someone posted a video about a group of people in CA being "e-checked" while OCing... , The kid in the video explains to the officer how to "e-check" his weapon. I have also read numerous posts where OC'ers have been disarmed by LEOs and the LEO was unfamiliar with their firearm. My question is... IF a "trained" LEO ever INSISTED on disarming you while you were LEGALLY CARRYING, then would you assist the LEO and help familiarize them with how your firearm operates? Or! Would you utilize your 'right to remain silent' and see how it unfolds? My thinking is that if anything were to go wrong (AND I NEVER WISH HARM ON ANYONE) then the blame will fall on the LEO. After that maybe LEOs will think twice before disarming LEGAL CARRYING CITIZENS... it could also make someone very rich  |
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05-14-2010
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| Grandmaster   Join Date: Mar 2008
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Maybe, but his demeanor suggested he probably would not have acted much differently even without the recording. There were at least two other LEOs in the background ready to assist that never came anywhere near the "scene".
__________________ What Rights have you agreed to compromise away today? What did you get in return? Nothing? So, you didn't compromise, you just gave them away. FOR NOTHING. Do you place such little value on your Rights that you'll sell them for NOTHING?! I'm going to demand that you give me your house and your car. When you refuse, I will order you to give me just your car, and then I will say "See? I compromised! I only took your car!" Allowing you to keep your own house and only taking your car is not a compromise. | |
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05-14-2010
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| Sharpshooter  Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Danville
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 | Okay couple Noob questions.......... One why are the guns unloaded? Is that their state law? Isn't it kinda pointless for the guns to be unloaded? Two how can the refuse to show I.D.? I thought that an LEO could I.D you and check for valid LTCH permit. Just wandering
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| Expert  Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Zionsville
Posts: 1,063
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Since they weren't doing anything that required any kind of license or permit to verify and there was no probable cause that they were committing any kind of crime, the LEO had no right to demand an ID. It was nice to see he knew that. Despite the politeness and professionalism of the LEO, it is still disgusting to see a couple clean cut guys obviously doing nothing more than enjoying a coffee bothered by an LEO just because they chose to exercise their rights. | |
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05-14-2010
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| Grandmaster Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 22,478
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East Bay police chief calls for open-carry ban | Political Blotter
__________________ What Rights have you agreed to compromise away today? What did you get in return? Nothing? So, you didn't compromise, you just gave them away. FOR NOTHING. Do you place such little value on your Rights that you'll sell them for NOTHING?! I'm going to demand that you give me your house and your car. When you refuse, I will order you to give me just your car, and then I will say "See? I compromised! I only took your car!" Allowing you to keep your own house and only taking your car is not a compromise. | |
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