Legality of .223 AR15 pistol?

[redneckmedic]

Come on MODS, put this thing to rest already

[JosephR]

Originally Posted by esrice

Wow, Joe, that was handled very well. Rep! (if I could!)

What? You can't rep? Sheesh!

Redneck- what's the problem? Threads like this should stay open for future questions later on.

It's better to have a thread "Grow" if any more questions come up than to have 5 separate ones that are just slightly different from one another. Right? One-stop shopping?

[redneckmedic]

Originally Posted by JosephR

Redneck- what's the problem? Threads like this should stay open for future questions later on.

It's better to have a thread "Grow" if any more questions come up than to have 5 separate ones that are just slightly different from one another. Right? One-stop shopping?

Agreed...but this seems to be a revolving door.

[g3man]

If you build an AR as a pistol can you then later SBR it and put a stock on it? Do you have to SBR a receiver already registered as a rifle?

[CountryBoy19]

Originally Posted by g3man

If you build an AR as a pistol can you then later SBR it and put a stock on it? Do you have to SBR a receiver already registered as a rifle?

You can turn just about anything into a rifle legally (this would included SBR). But if something was built as a rifle originally, it can't be turned into a pistol.

[palerider0485]

ar pistols are pistols. so they are legal, just do not put a stock on them. then you have a short barreled rifle. i have shot alot of ar-15 pistols and have never been impressed. profession ordinances were junk, bushmaster bought them. they never figured it out. rocky mountain arms never functioned right. i have always seen problums with short barrels in the ar action..... of course someone is going to say they have one and it works great though........ the best .223 pistol i have shot is the kel-tec PLR beleave it or not. i would take it over any ar-15 pistol. it uses the ar mags but has a gas piston and functions way better.

[JosephR]

You almost say that as if you believe pistols and short barreled rifles are not reliable and not from the pov that its just the ones you've fired that are poor quality. You get what you pay for. If you're like the typical fool that just has to have an AR and buys the cheapest thing possible, of course it won't function well.

Buy an old beat up porsche and tell me that porsches don't handle well.

The keltec functions way better? How many rounds had been through that keltec? I've seen them fail very very early. I was at the range once and a guy had nothing but problems. His exctractor insert was junk and not working. And yes of course, it's an ar15 bolt jammed into a frankengun. I've never owned an ar15 that wasn't 125% superior to any keltec.

Originally Posted by palerider0485

ar pistols are pistols. so they are legal, just do not put a stock on them. then you have a short barreled rifle. i have shot alot of ar-15 pistols and have never been impressed. profession ordinances were junk, bushmaster bought them. they never figured it out. rocky mountain arms never functioned right. i have always seen problums with short barrels in the ar action..... of course someone is going to say they have one and it works great though........ the best .223 pistol i have shot is the kel-tec PLR beleave it or not. i would take it over any ar-15 pistol. it uses the ar mags but has a gas piston and functions way better.

[joslar15]

Originally Posted by JosephR

You almost say that as if you believe pistols and short barreled rifles are not reliable and not from the pov that its just the ones you've fired that are poor quality. You get what you pay for. If you're like the typical fool that just has to have an AR and buys the cheapest thing possible, of course it won't function well.

Buy an old beat up porsche and tell me that porsches don't handle well.

Well said!

[JosephR]

Thank you!

[Culpepper]

ATF Letters:

Stripped Receiver made into a Pistol

Making an AR Pistol an AOW

Shoulder stock to a pistol designed to utilize such attachment