Any Legal P22 pop bottle adapters?

MattCFII · 07-02-2009

I heard there was a guy on eBay shortly after the P22 came out that was selling thread adapters for P22s that would allow you to thread on a pop bottle that would do a decent job of suppressing when paired with material in the bottle like shaving cream.

He wasn't registering these and of course the ATF shut him down. But is there anybody out there that makes a legal one that you can pay the tax stamp on? Because of the low cost of the adapter, it could be a good entry level into NFA. I still think overall value for entry level for my P22 would be a TAC65 or similar, but the tinker value of the pop bottle adapter could be a lot of fun to see what stuff you could put in the bottle to see what works.

Scutter01 · 07-02-2009

As far as I know, it's the pop bottle and not the thread adapter that's regulated as a suppressor. Not sure I'd want to pay a $200 stamp on a pop bottle that's not likely to last long.

colt45er · 07-02-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scutter01

As far as I know, it's the pop bottle and not the thread adapter that's regulated as a suppressor. Not sure I'd want to pay a $200 stamp on a pop bottle that's not likely to last long.

Dang you Scutter you are too fast

colt45er · 07-02-2009

I am no NFA expert but I am thinking no for a few reasons.

The first is the tax stamp is $200. To mean that is an expensive adapter for a pop bottle that will probably work marginal at best. On top of that, wont your sights be blocked??

In addition, I believe you need special paperwork to create a supressor. The adapter is not a supressor, the pop bottle woudl be....

I would say run far away from anythign like this.

Scutter01 · 07-02-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by colt45er

In addition, I believe you need special paperwork to create a supressor. The adapter is not a supressor, the pop bottle woudl be....

It's a Form 1, the same as if you're manufacturing a short-barreled rifle.

VUPDblue · 07-02-2009

There used to be a source for the adapters. It was legal, but they are a rarity now because they didn't sell well. The adapter was the "firearm" and the bottles were considered the replaceable part (read: Wipes). Surprisingly enough, that method can work well depending on the medium in the bottle. I saw one work VERY well with shaving cream.

Scutter01 · 07-02-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by VUPDblue

There used to be a source for the adapters. It was legal, but they are a rarity now because they didn't sell well. The adapter was the "firearm" and the bottles were considered the replaceable part (read: Wipes). Surprisingly enough, that method can work well depending on the medium in the bottle. I saw one work VERY well with shaving cream.

Oh, in that case I'd be interested! Wonder why they didn't sell well?

KokomoDave · 07-02-2009

We used the 1 liter pop bottles so prevalent in California when I was stationed there.Everyone had adapters for our High Standard pistols.We filled them with Styrofoam packing peanuts and duct tape in an X across the bottom with a pilot hole .250".Worked well on shooting lights,guard dogs,etc.

CarmelHP · 07-02-2009

They were selling these for .45s in Shotgun News back in the '80s before ATF stepped in. Those were made of plastic and would wear out/break very quickly.

Bulgy74 · 07-02-2009

Ah, you beat me to it VUPD!

Yep, perfectly legal to buy as a supressor with disposable wipes.

I'd rather buy an Outback since I drink my soda from a can!

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MattCFII Plinker Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Speedway Posts: 97	Any Legal P22 pop bottle adapters? I heard there was a guy on eBay shortly after the P22 came out that was selling thread adapters for P22s that would allow you to thread on a pop bottle that would do a decent job of suppressing when paired with material in the bottle like shaving cream. He wasn't registering these and of course the ATF shut him down. But is there anybody out there that makes a legal one that you can pay the tax stamp on? Because of the low cost of the adapter, it could be a good entry level into NFA. I still think overall value for entry level for my P22 would be a TAC65 or similar, but the tinker value of the pop bottle adapter could be a lot of fun to see what stuff you could put in the bottle to see what works. __________________ NRA Life Member

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Scutter01 INGO Bishop of Bacon Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Verify range to target, one RFC792 ICMP type 8 packet only, please. Posts: 10,500	As far as I know, it's the pop bottle and not the thread adapter that's regulated as a suppressor. Not sure I'd want to pay a $200 stamp on a pop bottle that's not likely to last long. __________________ Forum Rules: http://ingunowners.com/forums/introd...e_posting.html Classifieds Rules: http://ingunowners.com/forums/firear...e_posting.html INGO FAQ (recommended): http://ingunowners.com/forums/genera...qs_sticky.html

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VUPDblue NFA User & MCF&G V.P. Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Wayne Township Posts: 2,885	There used to be a source for the adapters. It was legal, but they are a rarity now because they didn't sell well. The adapter was the "firearm" and the bottles were considered the replaceable part (read: Wipes). Surprisingly enough, that method can work well depending on the medium in the bottle. I saw one work VERY well with shaving cream. __________________ Silencers have *never* been illegal! Need a place to shoot? Check us out at MCFG. We're on the West side! INGO Rules Of Conduct Classifieds Rules READ THIS

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KokomoDave Not your average Korean Hillbilly Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Kokomo Posts: 646	We used the 1 liter pop bottles so prevalent in California when I was stationed there.Everyone had adapters for our High Standard pistols.We filled them with Styrofoam packing peanuts and duct tape in an X across the bottom with a pilot hole .250".Worked well on shooting lights,guard dogs,etc. __________________ Usual Suspect KB9NIK http://www.gunfax.com/showlist.htm www.indy1500.com

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CarmelHP Scolding the Ignorant Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Carmel Posts: 1,958	They were selling these for .45s in Shotgun News back in the '80s before ATF stepped in. Those were made of plastic and would wear out/break very quickly. __________________ Barack Obama: In your heart you know he's nuts. "Of all the offspring of Time, Error is the most ancient, and is so old and familiar an acquaintance, that Truth, when discovered, comes upon most of us like an intruder, and meets the intruder's welcome." (Mackay, 1841)

07-02-2009	#4 (permalink)
colt45er Cocked, Locked, and Ready to Rock Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Avon, IN Posts: 914	I am no NFA expert but I am thinking no for a few reasons. The first is the tax stamp is $200. To mean that is an expensive adapter for a pop bottle that will probably work marginal at best. On top of that, wont your sights be blocked?? In addition, I believe you need special paperwork to create a supressor. The adapter is not a supressor, the pop bottle woudl be.... I would say run far away from anythign like this.

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Bulgy74 BANNED Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 102	Ah, you beat me to it VUPD! Yep, perfectly legal to buy as a supressor with disposable wipes. I'd rather buy an Outback since I drink my soda from a can!

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