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DPG Defensive Knife course - Indianapolis, IN - January 30, 2010

JimFloyd — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:42:41 GMT

Gain essential skills to use your knife and/or defend against a knife in a lethal force encounter!

What you will be doing during this fast paced, highly interactive and hands-on course:

Legally using force to protect yourself or a third person
Understanding the force continuum
Making use of force decisions
Discussing the psychology of edged weapon use
Reviewing knife laws
Selecting an everyday carry knife
Carrying techniques
Drawing your knife
Gripping your knife
Opening your knife using various techniques
Cutting a practice target
Moving in and out of various ranges
Stepping and footwork drills
Practicing angles of attack
Performing alive hand / empty hand techniques
Activating pressure points with a closed knife
Defending against knife attacks
Deploying a firearm (simulated) in Force-on-Force simulations
Using improvised weapons to counter knife attacks
Protecting anatomical targets
and More!

Please wear clothing that you typically wear on the street, including the same type of shoes. This is realistic training for the real world, not a gym or dojo!

Bring any (all) knives you normally carry, or intend to carry to class with you. While this course will primarily focus on the use of folding knives, we will be happy to discuss fixed blade knives as well. ALSO, contact Jim BEFORE you go out and buy a knife, especially if you are buying one to use in this course. You can spend a lot of money on a knife (Jim knows, he has and still does!) but there are good choices that are less expensive and work well. We highly recommend that you get/have a MANUAL knife with a THUMB STUD when first learning as they are the easiest to open, properly grip and use (besides being legal in the most states!).

We will take a 30 minute snack break. Please bring something lite to eat, and plenty of water to drink to keep yourself energized and hydrated.

Class size is limited and pre-registration is required!

Instructors: Jim Floyd, M.Ed., is a master instructor in edged weapons, holds advanced black belt ranking in Shigaisen Ryu Budo, and is a certified full instructor in Jeet Kune Do and Kali-Silat. He can be reached at jfloyd @ dignitaryprotectiongroup .com (remove all spaces)

Aaron Edwards, B.S., is an apprentice instructor in Kali-Silat.

Cost: $99.00 per person (includes student manual and certification card) until January 16th at 0900 hrs. Enrollment after January 16th at 0900 hrs. is $128.12 per person.

REGISTER NOW >>> http://www.eventbrite.com/event/491974509

MCS Edged Weapon Surival 16/17 JAN 2010 Columbus OH

mercop — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:22:16 GMT

Edged Weapon Survival

DPG Utah Permit Course - Dec 5th (Saturday) - Indy - ONLY 6 SEATS LEFT!

JimFloyd — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:15:13 GMT

Only 6 seats remain available for the Saturday, December 5, 2009 Utah Permit Course and early registration pricing ($99.95) ends on November 21st!

Register now >>> http://www.eventbrite.com/event/355104126

ACT: DP205 - Low Light Skills - 26 DECEMBER 2009

ACT II — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:52:40 GMT

Our Low Light class has been rescheduled for 26 DECEMBER 2009. If you're interested in participating, please contact me via email at Joseph@AdaptiveConsultingandTraining.com.

EVENT: DP205 � Low Light Skills
DATE: 26 DECEMBER 2009
LOCATION: Riley Conservation Club � Terre Haute, IN
INSTRUCTOR: Joseph Viray, assisted by ACT staff
TUITION: $125
PREREQUISITES: DP101 (or equivalent); instructor approval REQUIRED
DESCRIPTION:

�Low Light Skills� will focus defensive techniques applied to low light or total darkness situations. The class will focus on the use of modern, high intensity flashlights and their applications to defensive use. Topics will include acquisition of information, use of handheld flashlights both with and without firearms, use of weapon-mounted flashlights, use of supplemental sighting devices (e.g. lasers), use of tritium night sights, etc.

** PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS CLASS WILL INCLUDE LIVE FIRE DRILLS. **

Class: DP205 - Low Light Skills
Location: Riley Conservation Club (near Terre Haute, IN) - www.rileycc.com
Date: Saturday - 26 DECEMBER 2009
Time: 1:00 pm to 9:00 pm

TENTATIVE SCHEDULE:

1:00 - 4:00 pm: Introduction, lecture, indoor demos and practice with lights and inert weapon replicas
4:00 - 5:00 pm: Break for dinner (we'll be serving our usual "gourmet hot dog lunch" as dinner)
5:00 - 6:00 pm: Warm-ups and some drills on the range while there is enough light to see
6:00 - 9:00 pm: Low light live fire drills (live fire ceases no later than 10:00 pm)
9:00 pm: Debriefing

GEAR LIST:

Reliable, high-intensity handheld light; lanyard recommended
Back-up light (optional)
Spare batteries (recommended)
Spare lamps (if your light uses incandescent lamps)
Low intensity "task light" for navigation and checking targets (optional)
Weapon-mounted light (optional)
Inert replica of your pistol if you have one (e.g "Blue Gun" or similar that fits your holster)
Concealment garment (optional)
Pistol, caliber consistent with defensive needs
300-500 rounds of ammunition (how much you need depends on how much you choose to fire)
3 or more magazines or speed loaders. More is better to avoid delays on the line.
Magazine or speed loader carriers
Belt holster that covers the trigger guard and allows one handed holstering
Pistol belt
Eye and ear protection. Electronic muffs or vented earplugs suggested allowing

easier hearing of range commands.

Billed cap

Please dress appropriately for outdoor activities according to the weather and allow
for moderate physical activity. We will shoot, rain or shine, so consider bringing rain
gear.

You may consider bringing snacks and fluids for the day. Snack bars or power bars
are great to keep in your shooting bag. Water or a combination of water and sport
drinks work best. ACT will provide a hotdog dinner (hotdogs, chips and cookies) and
bottled water throughout the day.

For more information or to register, please contact us via email at:

Joseph@AdaptiveConsultingandTraining.com
John@AdaptiveConsultingandTraining.com
Aron@AdaptiveConsultingandTraining.com

Or visit our web site at: www.AdaptiveConsultingandTraining.com

EMT type classes

Bruenor — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:31:50 GMT

In today's trauma class put in by Redneckmedic, there were a couple of people who said that they were thinking of becoming EMTs or paramedics. Since I have a real hard time remembering names, I'll just post this in the general thread. I was looking for EMT classes for myself, and came across this site on the Indiana DHS website.

The site lists several different types of courses, where they are offered, and when the classes begin/end. They have information through the end of the year. You may have to search out each facility to get information on prices, but I thought this was a great resource for those who are looking to get certified in some advanced classes.

Redneckmedic's Trauma Class - After Class Report PIC HEAVY - GRAPHIC

Bruenor — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:29:24 GMT

When an instructor has both knowledge and passion for their subject matter, you know that you'll end up with a great class. That was exactly what we had in Redneckmedic's Trauma Class. I learned so much that I really need more time to fully absorb it all.

Redneckmedic was accompanied by Indygunworks and also RotorTalker. Each provided a wealth of information, and fully answered all questions that we had.

The class first started with an introduction to combat care. Indygunworks went over treatment during a dynamic situation, and when to and when not to provide treatment. For instance, if you are ever in a situation where you are under active fire, do not try to play the hero, rush into the hail of bullets, and start bandaging up your fallen friend. That might work in Hollywood, but in real life will probably get you killed.

Indygunworks also went over tourniquets, and when and how to use them. It used to be that tourniquets were used as a last resort (that's what I always thought of them as), but now in combat situations the armed forces are actually using them as almost a first treatment. I found out that a tourniquet can be placed on a lim for up to six hours, and the limb still survive without damage. That is, of course, if you use the tourniquet properly.

Redneckmedic went over a lot of basic medical information, including an intro to the vascular system, shick, and some trauma statistics. We then went to some hands on training, dealing with "wounded" individuals. Redneckmedic knows a firefighter who went through some very extensive training on creating convincing wounds, and made up a couple of victims for us to study. It was so realistic that it could have passed pretty well on a big production Hollywood set. Hopefully someone will post pictures later, because I remember at least one person was there with a camera. We studied three victims, analyzing how the wounds were caused, and also how to treat the wounds.

RotorTalker talked more about wounds, specifically on entrance/exit holes, wound cavities, and the physics of wound creation. It was fascinating to see exactly what the internal damage caused by a knife or gunshot would look like, and exactly how traumitizing it is to the body.

We ended the class with going over Redneckmedics and RotorTalkers gear. Each one had a good first aid kit, and Redneckmedic said that he will keep this type of a kit in his car. We talked about what to pack in them, and also some tips on where to buy these items. We even talked about getting a group buy for some basic medical supplies to help keep costs down.

All in all, it was a perfect class, and if Redneckmedic offers it again I would highly recommend that everyone takes it. We slated the class for two hours, and all but two people stayed for over five hours, asking more questions and learning more. Reps to the instructors, you guys did a great job.

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AAR: DPG's Utah Concealed Carry Permit Course

GunLawyer — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:45:28 GMT

Last night, I was pleased to attend the Utah Concealed Carrry Permit course organized by the Dignitary Protection Group at the Jameson Inn in Indy. Jim Floyd of DPG is an EXCELLENT instructor, and he made the course extremely interesting, fun and informative. Jim has also done a great job of putting his PowerPoint presentation together, which was absolutely full of great videos that were not only interesting and entertaining, but also provided perfect examples of many of the important points that Jim was making in the presentation.

As impressed as I was with this training course, I plan to attend as many of DPG's courses as possible - even though I am an instructor myself. It was great to be a student in a course that was conducted by such knowledgable and professional individuals.

Of course, getting my Utah permit will be great, but the course itself was also a great investment of my time and money - and a great bargain as well.

Room clearing class

U.S. Patriot — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:03:51 GMT

I would be willing to teach a class. On how to clear rooms, cover and concealment, and choke points etc. We would have to find a place to do so. If you are interested, please either pm me or leave a message here. So you think I'm not just some gung ho nut job, that learned everything from watching movies. I was taught tactical entry, while in the service. Of course we had to learn to clear ships, but the same applies for clearing a home, or business etc. Hope to see some replies.

Fall Creek Valley Conservation Club?

dieselman — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:05:16 GMT

I am looking at joining fcvcc in Anderson, has anyone had any experiences there or know anything about how good of a range it is?

Winter Survival Class Dec 12-13, Camden TN

WETSU — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:54:36 GMT

Hey guys,

I am teaching my regular 30 hour, 2 day Wilderness Survival class in Camden TN, December 12-13, but with a twist.

It is going to be a Winter/Cold Weather class. In addition to the regular material I cover, I will also go over navigating ice/avalanch zones, cold injury, prioritizing your needs in cold weather, etc.

For more info:

Tactical Response

Like all my courses, we will spend the entire 30 hours outside, in the woods, in the cold, living the lessons. You will get hands on experience building your shelter, making fires, getting water, doing land nav, signals and plenty of hands on in wilderness 1st aid.

In this class you will learn as much about yourself as you will skills.

MagPul Dynamics Carbine 1: July 10-11th 2010

jwfuhrman — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:13:23 GMT

Magpul Dynamics
Dynamic Carbine 1

Lead Instructor: Chris Costa
Date: July 10th � 11th 2010
Location: Nappanee Conservation Club, Nappanee Indiana
Cost: $500 Plus $25 range fee collected the day of class
Round Count: 1500rds carbine, 200rds pistol

Register by phone at: 1.877.4MAGPUL ext 126
balance due no later than 30 days prior to class.

Course Description
An entry-level course where students are familiarized with their rifles. The class will thoroughly cover:
� Proper choice and placement of gear
� Different optics and accessories
� Effective shooting stance
� Proper weapon grip
� Recoil control
� Sight alignment
� Sight picture using iron sights and electronic optics
� Trigger control
� Speed reloads
� Tactical reloads
� Possible malfunctions of the rifle
� Strong and weak hand shooting while both stationary and on the move
� Different shooting positions
� Choosing the proper position for the task
The course starts in the classroom and will include extensive dry fire exercises.

Hardware/Kit
A functional carbine or submachine gun chambered in 5.56x45, 5.45x39 or 7.62x39mm or standard pistol caliber weapon systems. If available, a spare weapon system is also an excellent idea. A cleaning kit and tools that are compatible with the weapon system(s) in question is also a must. Each student should have a minimum of 5 working magazines. Sometimes magazines will make it in your dump bag and sometimes they won't. If they hit the ground they can become fouled, causing weapon malfunctions and time off the line.
� Note pad, and pen/pencil
� Clothing suited to strenuous type activity as well as being seasonally appropriate
� Appropriate foot wear
� Rain gear / cold weather gear (seasonal)
� Ear pro (electronic preferred)
� Eye pro, which wraps around
� Baseball style hat recommended
� Primary weapon sling, single point, or a good system that allows flexibility for transitions and reaction side weapon manipulations
� A rig that can carry a minimum of four (4) primary magazines on your person
� Functioning secondary weapon system, and three working magazines
� A holster and magazine pouch that will retain your equipment when moving
� Tools that work on your weapon
� Weapons lube
� Optics will require adjustment tools and spare batteries
� Water hydrating device
� Knee and Elbow pads (optional)
� Gloves (optional, but recommended)
� An open mind.

Precision Rifle/Sniper Training Course

"ThatGuy" — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:11:02 GMT

So since I bought another precision rifle, Ive wanted to go to a Precision rifle/sniper course. After looking around, I found that the closet school is US Training Center (previously Blackwater) in Illinois. Has anyone been there? And also, does anyone know of any similar centers that give a course like this that are closer? Any feedback is appreciated.

alternate double-feed clearance method

shooter521 — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:45:32 GMT

Saw this posted/discussed on another forum. Anyone here experimented with it?

YouTube - ToddG Pistol Malfunction Clearing

Mindset Lab: 3 Course After Action Review

TheAutomator — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:58:28 GMT

Mindset Lab: 3 Course After Action Review

Some time ago I became aware of a new training opportunity in the Indianapolis area. Shay VanVlyman, former president and instructor at Tactical Response, had started doing training classes locally under the moniker Mindset Lab. He is teaching force on force and low-light techniques, for the most part. So far he has no live-fire classes on his roster.

So far I have taken 3 classes with him: Flashlight Combatives, Intro to Force on Force, and Dynamic Force on Force Scenarios.

For a little background, I took a weekend class at Front Sight back in 2006 with a good number of TFR regulars. It was a great time and taught me basic marksmanship. It is square range training and very little is applicable to defending your life. The only thing I REALLY took away from the class is marksmanship skills. Don't get me wrong, these are very important. However, in the scheme of things, shooting well is only a small piece of the self-defense puzzle. They teach a couple things I have serious issues with, but we won't get into that here.

In spring of 2007, I took a 2 day MP5 Operator's Course. The class was taught by Tom Dresner, former director of HK's now defunct training division. HK was on the cutting edge of training back in the day, and the training division taught and perfected many of the modern submachine gun and tactical rifle techniques that are still in use today. Tom now does private classes for groups of students around the nation. We were taught the proper use of stances, movement, trigger control on an automatic weapon, weapon transitions, and many other things. If you ever have the opportunity to take the class, I'd highly recommend it. Tom can normally provide loaner guns, so do not let the lack of a capable SMG stop you.

Onto the meat of this post:

Course 1: Flashlight Combatives

I didn't really know what to expect when I signed up for the course. This was the first time I had worked with this particular instructor. I knew going into it there would be no shooting, and very little gun work.

We started out with a meet and greet and a comprehensive safety briefing. We had a long lecture on defensive mindset. We spoke at great length about Jeff Cooper's philosophies regarding defensive mindset and his infamous 'color codes' among other things.

We then talked about the use of the high intensity flashlight as a defensive tool and potential deterrent. One of the best things about the flashlight is that it will not necessarily escalate the force continuum like a knife or gun will. Most people see flashlights, especially hand held lights, as a benign object. Pulling a flashlight and shining it in someone's face will not bite you in the *** in court. The police will not respond with guns drawn to a man with a flashlight call.

We then started working on light technique. We went through a few holds and Shay explained why he advocated the 'neck hold.'

This hold keeps the flashlight in retention and provides light at a decent angle relative to your eyes. It connects the light to your head, in that when you turn your head to look somewhere, the light will follow. It also pre-loads a strike, allowing you to come out or down with the light as needed. Your hands are up in the hold to aid in hand-to-hand defense. Your other hand is also free for knife, gun, or unarmed combative use.

We started working on strikes shortly after. We practiced strikes with hands, basic kicks, a clinch position, and some other techniques. I won't go into this too much, as not to take anything away from the class. All attacks were solid, quick, and simple.

Soon we were talking about low light target identification and search techniques including sweeping the light in quick on/off beams instead of holding it on like a beacon. We went over movement while searching as well.

Next, we had a lecture and discussion on types of high intensity lights, and the benefits and drawbacks. We went over a wide variety of models from Surefire, Pelican, and other brands.

Finally, we went over light use with a weapon. We discussed different ways to utilize handheld lights with both pistols and long arms.

Overall, I found the class very interesting. It gave me some things to think about in regards to options for self defense. There are many places where you cannot carry a gun or knife, but you can tote a flashlight. A light is a very unassuming tool that can be used to great effect on an adversary. Flashlight training isn�t sexy like live-fire training is. You�re not learning high speed low drag stuff. What you are learning is how to take care of yourself in the real world.

Course 2: Intro to Force on Force

This was the first force on force class I had taken. It was truly an eye opening experience.

The meat of the class is lecture. After introducing ourselves, we went into a safety briefing. We then went into a long lecture about defensive mindset. We then broke for lunch.

After lunch, we started in on basic gun handling. We learned Shay�s preferred draw stroke.

Step one: Pull cover garment and grip the pistol in a fighting grip. Your non-dominant hand should be placed against your sternum or above and held there.

Step two: Draw pistol straight out of the holster, and bring it up to armpit height, canting elbow and pointing the muzzle of the gun at about 45 degrees:

The reason your muzzle is pointed down is to facilitate movement of your non-dominant hand. With the muzzle in this position, you�ll be shooting into the attacker�s abdomen or lower. This allows your non-dominant hand to work high on the attacker, holding him, defending yourself, striking, etc.

Step three: Bring the hands together at your chest completing your two handed grip. Gun should be pointing at your target.

Step four: Bring the arms to full extension and acquire a sight picture.

I found this drawstroke very efficient and adaptable. It works for varying levels of distance to your adversary. If he�s up in your face, position 2 is great. You can work with your non-dominant hand up high, the gun is held in pretty decent retention, and your rounds are headed toward the ground. This last part is useful in that when fighting that closely, you won�t be picking up a sight picture. Therefore, any innocents in the background of the fight are in less danger of taking a round. As distance is gained to the attacker, you can move to position 3 and 4. As distance is closed, you can move backward through the steps.

We then discussed something I didn�t expect to in a firearms training class: 911 calls. Most people have never practiced and went over something as simple as a 911 call. However, after any defensive shooting, you will likely be calling in emergency service.

Next, we traded in our blue guns for Glock 19s modified for UTM use.

We did some basic work with these such as drawing from concealment on a live attacker and firing. I won�t get into much detail, as I don�t want to spoil the class for anyone interested in taking it.

One thing I would like to mention is the absolute insistence on safety in the class. When we begin to work with blue or UTM guns, we disarm ourselves of any and all live weapons including guns and knives. We place the weapons in a locked room that only Shay has the key to. Before entering the training area, we are required to be frisked and searched twice by two different people. A safe environment is a must for this type of training. I felt Shay did what he could to ensure this.

All of this leads up to the end of the day, where we underwent a single scenario to test our training. I will not be discussing the scenario; however, I can say it was an eye opening experience. I experienced everything I�ve been told I would in a gun fight, including tunnel vision and time distortion. I made some pretty major errors I regret, but training is the place to make your mistakes so that you can learn from them.

Course 3: Dynamic Force on Force Scenarios

Unfortunately, I can�t talk much about this course. After an introduction period and safety briefing, we immediately started in on the scenarios. We did a total of 5 that day including both shooting and non-shooting. There were a few that you would never expect, at least I wouldn�t have.

Truly an eye opening experience and one that makes me want to further my training.

All in all, I think Shay runs a truly top notch training company. I learned much about myself, as well as new techniques, in all of his classes. Not only did I learn new things, I also learned what old things I need to work on to improve myself. I realize this sounds clich�, but I feel as if I have grown as a person. I feel that I am better able to take care of myself after these classes.

Please check out Mindset Lab. I sincerely believe you will not regret taking a class with them.

I�d like to thank Shay for running a top notch school, Joe for lighting me up on many occasions as well as opening my eyes, and Andy for doing the same as well as lending his warehouse to us for the 3 days.