http://ingunowners.com/forums Civil -discussion- regarding political topics en Thu, 09 Sep 2010 08:03:57 GMT vBulletin 60 http://ingunowners.com/forums/images/styles/Greenstar/misc/rss.jpg http://ingunowners.com/forums http://ingunowners.com/forums/general_political_discussion/108540-congressional_candidate_larry_bucshon.html Thu, 09 Sep 2010 03:02:57 GMT I listened to a speech this evening by 8th District Congressional Candidate Larry Bucshon and learned about his stances on many issues. After his speech I went out to Applebee's with him and asked him a few very specific questions relating to the second amendment that I thought I should share.

I asked Dr. Bucshon if he was aware of Indiana's LTCH and his opinions of it. He said that he was a strong supporter of the 2nd amendment and knew that Indiana issues a LTCH. He said that he supports people with a LTCH being able to carry a handgun open or concealed.

I also asked Dr. Bucshon if he would support legislation similar to the National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act. He said that he would vote to support similar legislation. He said that he thinks the reciprocity act would make firearms laws easier for people to understand. Dr. Bucshon mentioned to me that he thought it was very important that we elect pro 2nd amendment legislators because 2nd amendment issues don't come up a whole lot and we need to get them passed when they do. ]]> General Political Discussion jdmack79 http://ingunowners.com/forums/general_political_discussion/108540-congressional_candidate_larry_bucshon.html http://ingunowners.com/forums/general_political_discussion/108539-debt_clock_now_the_bank_ledger.html Thu, 09 Sep 2010 02:51:27 GMT FDIC: Failed Bank List (http://www.fdic.gov/bank/individual/failed/banklist.html) FDIC: Failed Bank List ]]> General Political Discussion Duncan http://ingunowners.com/forums/general_political_discussion/108539-debt_clock_now_the_bank_ledger.html http://ingunowners.com/forums/general_political_discussion/108481-is_fidel_finally_seeing_the_light.html Wed, 08 Sep 2010 22:09:39 GMT Indystar - Report: Castro says Cuban model doesn't work

Amazing as it seems, even Commandante Fidel is finally admitting socialism doesn't work. What next? Obama-lama-ding-dong disavowing marxism? ]]> General Political Discussion quicksdraw http://ingunowners.com/forums/general_political_discussion/108481-is_fidel_finally_seeing_the_light.html http://ingunowners.com/forums/general_political_discussion/108474-globalist_soros_launches_frontal_assault_against_tea_party.html Wed, 08 Sep 2010 21:24:19 GMT I saw this on another gun forum and thought it was a interesting read.

(quote removed in compliance with INGO copyright rules)

Here is the source: Globalist Soros Launches Frontal Assault Against Tea Party

Do the tea parties have anything to worry about???
Instead of defusing anything, looks like the NAACP and the Anti-Tea Party folks want to fan the fires any where they can. Looks like a all out "search" for racism against the Tea Parties has begun.

By the way I did a search and could not find this previously posted. :D ]]> General Political Discussion TopDog http://ingunowners.com/forums/general_political_discussion/108474-globalist_soros_launches_frontal_assault_against_tea_party.html http://ingunowners.com/forums/general_political_discussion/108471-iran_funding_insurgents_in_iraq.html Wed, 08 Sep 2010 21:04:33 GMT http://www.voanews.com/english/news/Odierno-Iran-Funding-Extremists-in-Iraq-101257889.html

General Odierno, [former] commander of forces in Iraq, recently stated that it was clear Iran is funding insurgents in Iraq to destabilize any progress made to further a democracy within the country. My question: at what point does the US take aim at Iran? Does Ahmadinejad need to physically take a sh*t on Obama's desk to get him to react?
]]> General Political Discussion steepo17 http://ingunowners.com/forums/general_political_discussion/108471-iran_funding_insurgents_in_iraq.html http://ingunowners.com/forums/general_political_discussion/108455-officer_attacked_by_a_drunk_immigrant.html Wed, 08 Sep 2010 19:09:07 GMT FOXNews.com - LAPD to Probe Fatal Shooting of Laborer As Protesters Pelt Police Station With Rocks

Apparently a Bicycle officer was asked to respond to a man threatening people with a knife, when the officer (with backup) approached then man lunged at him with the knife. Police officer draws and shoots man dead (two shots).

Immigrants begin rioting, "Some protesters pushed rolling metal trash bins at officers and tossed household items from apartment buildings. People were throwing televisions, air conditioning units, miscellaneous furniture and other objects from the windows."

You gotta love these "peaceful" demonstrators.

Lets recap: Police officer comes to the aid of "citizens" in fear of their life, is attacked, responds by firing twice (not excessive), gets repaid by same community with rioting. Lovely.

For my part, I don't think the officer did anything wrong (providing the story being told is accurate). +1 ]]> General Political Discussion nawainwright http://ingunowners.com/forums/general_political_discussion/108455-officer_attacked_by_a_drunk_immigrant.html http://ingunowners.com/forums/general_political_discussion/108424-intrade.html Wed, 08 Sep 2010 16:29:15 GMT There is a website called Intrade (Intrade.com) which allows users to actually put money (bet) on the outcome of nearly any event (political or otherwise). The events are displayed the same as you would find the latest trade data for stocks, bonds, etc. The bid/ask are basically quantified as percentages. A typical Event might be "Republicans will take over as House Majority based on results from 2010 elections." As far as politics is concerned, I know statisticians have looked at this and if there are enough people that actually bet on a single event (enough critical mass to draw some valid statistical conclusions), the predictions made on this board can be pretty accurate. It's found that people tend to predict more accurately when they have money at stake.....go figure. It's pretty interesting, you should check it out. ]]> General Political Discussion steepo17 http://ingunowners.com/forums/general_political_discussion/108424-intrade.html http://ingunowners.com/forums/general_political_discussion/108398-last_light_bulb_manufactuer_closes.html Wed, 08 Sep 2010 10:22:07 GMT The last incandescent light bulb manufacturing facility is closing in the US. The plant was a GE plant located in Virginia. The push for the energy saving bulbs was part of the reason for the closure the other was cost. Now, all bulbs are produced in China. So much for the green revolution providing jobs in the US. The last incandescent light bulb manufacturing facility is closing in the US. The plant was a GE plant located in Virginia. The push for the energy saving bulbs was part of the reason for the closure the other was cost. Now, all bulbs are produced in China. So much for the green revolution providing jobs in the US. ]]> General Political Discussion dleeharrison http://ingunowners.com/forums/general_political_discussion/108398-last_light_bulb_manufactuer_closes.html http://ingunowners.com/forums/general_political_discussion/108311-breaking_news_chicago_s_mayor_daley_won_t_run_again.html Tue, 07 Sep 2010 21:39:05 GMT Let the rejoicing begin. This could be a the beginning of a bright new day for those living under the tyrannical strangle-hold of one of the most corrupt political dynasties in American history.

Video | Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley Won't Seek Re-Election ]]> General Political Discussion gglass http://ingunowners.com/forums/general_political_discussion/108311-breaking_news_chicago_s_mayor_daley_won_t_run_again.html http://ingunowners.com/forums/general_political_discussion/108277-mayor_daley_not_seeking_another_term.html Tue, 07 Sep 2010 18:53:07 GMT WLS-AM 890

Oh happy days! ]]> General Political Discussion Jubbie http://ingunowners.com/forums/general_political_discussion/108277-mayor_daley_not_seeking_another_term.html http://ingunowners.com/forums/general_political_discussion/108247-student_asked_to_remove_american_flag.html Tue, 07 Sep 2010 13:41:44 GMT See this story, this security guard should be removed: FOXNews.com - Colorado Student Says He Was Told to Remove U.S. Flags

It's unfortunate, but this security guard's attitude seems to be epidemic based on many similar stories in the news recently - people feeling uneasy/uncomfortable with an act of patriotism in displaying the flag. I know this is very unrealistic, but it would be great to give students the opportunity to study at least one semester abroad. I wouldn't want to put them in harm's way within some 3rd world hole; however, if our kids were able to walk out of the sanctuary of this country's borders for a few months, maybe they might gain some perspective on how lucky they really are and begin to take some pride. More realistically, if kids were educated more consistently on how & why this country was actually founded, as well as some comparative study on world economic systems (e.g., how easy it would be to start and successfully create one's own business in the US versus, say, North Korea), there might be a few that are actually inspired. Instead, our kids seem to be getting their ques on how unfair/unjust this country is from disgruntled, burnt-out civics instructors and/or misinformed/uneducated hollywood actors that broadcast a "cool" 30 second PSA on MTV. Unfortunately, since these kids' minds are being shaped by the respective "misfits" described above for 8 hours a day, they fail to see/realize/admire (or maybe even learn to despise) how mom and/or dad are killing themselves at work to "live the American dream" by putting food on the table and hoping that their kid's lives end up better than their own. It's an incredible irony if you ask me. ]]> General Political Discussion steepo17 http://ingunowners.com/forums/general_political_discussion/108247-student_asked_to_remove_american_flag.html http://ingunowners.com/forums/general_political_discussion/108246-ingo_member_running_for_house_district_54_a.html Tue, 07 Sep 2010 13:26:18 GMT Look who has a website! INGO member Rex Bell is running for a Indiana House seat in District 54 and he's put up a nice new website. If you live down that way drop in and take a look. He has a bit to say and it's better than what you usually hear!

Elect Rex Bell ]]> General Political Discussion mrjarrell http://ingunowners.com/forums/general_political_discussion/108246-ingo_member_running_for_house_district_54_a.html http://ingunowners.com/forums/general_political_discussion/108244-the_true_costs_of_the_bank_bailouts.html Tue, 07 Sep 2010 13:19:43 GMT You know it's bad, when even NPR is commenting on it. $700 Billion for TARP was just the appetiser. The true costs are over $12 Trillion. Don't that just curl your hair?

The true cost of the bank bailout | Need to Know | PBS ]]> General Political Discussion mrjarrell http://ingunowners.com/forums/general_political_discussion/108244-the_true_costs_of_the_bank_bailouts.html http://ingunowners.com/forums/general_political_discussion/108243-more_dangerous_than_run_of_the_mill_terrorists.html Tue, 07 Sep 2010 13:17:15 GMT Middle Eastern terrorists bear watching, no doubt. But, there's a segment of the population that needs even more careful watching. The current terrorists hate the west. These other guys hate humanity and would love to see about 90% of us killed off, all in the name of saving the planet. Given the opportunity they'd unleash hellish plagues on us and nod approvingly while we all bled out. These are some dangerous folks.

Classical Values :: Since when have mass extinctions saved this planet? ]]> General Political Discussion mrjarrell http://ingunowners.com/forums/general_political_discussion/108243-more_dangerous_than_run_of_the_mill_terrorists.html http://ingunowners.com/forums/general_political_discussion/108212-classic_quotes_on_politics.html Tue, 07 Sep 2010 03:24:19 GMT Some entertaining quotes that I found.....

• In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two is a law firm and three or more is a congress.- John Adams
• If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed. - Mark Twain
• Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But then I repeat myself. - Mark Twain
• I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle. - Winston Churchill
• A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul. - George Bernard Shaw
• A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money. - G. Gordon Liddy
• Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner. - James Bovard, Civil Libertarian (1994)
• Foreign aid might be defined as a transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries. - Douglas Casey, Classmate of Bill Clinton at Georgetown University
• Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. - P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian
• Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. - Frederic Bastiat, French Economist (1801-1850)
• Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it. - Ronald Reagan (1986)
• I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. - Will Rogers
• If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free! - P.J. O'Rourke
• In general, the art of government consists of taking as much money as possible from one party of the citizens to give to the other. - Voltaire (1764)
• Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you! - Pericles (430 B.C.)
• No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. - Mark Twain (1866)
• Talk is cheap...except when Congress does it. - Anonymous
• The government is like a baby's alimentary canal, with a happy appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other. - Ronald Reagan
• The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. - Winston Churchill
• The only difference between a tax man and a taxidermist is that the taxidermist leaves the skin. - Mark Twain
• The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903)
• There is no distinctly native American criminal class...save Congress.- Mark Twain
• What this country needs are more unemployed politicians. - Edward Langley, Artist (1928-1995)

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