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			<title>GUN AND KNIFE SHOW IN MADISON</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 06:09:53 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Show this weekend at the armory in Madison.
Saturday 9 -5 & Sunday 9-3



If anyone is familiar with the friendship flea market near Madison it starts this weekend also.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Show this weekend at the armory in Madison.<br />
Saturday 9 -5 &amp; Sunday 9-3<br />
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If anyone is familiar with the friendship flea market near Madison it starts this weekend also.</div>

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			<dc:creator>68kidd</dc:creator>
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			<title>Rochester FOP Lodge 143 Gun Show</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 03:45:06 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[The Rochester Gun Show is this weekend...Sat. Sept 11 8am -5pm. Sunday, Sept , 12, 8am-4pm. Admission is only $3.00...FREE PARKING & GOOD FOOD AVAILABLE. Fulton County Fairgrounds, 1009 W. 3rd St. 115 Table show---profits from this show go back into the community of Fulton County...We would be happy to see you! Call 574-936-4431 for information:welcome:]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>The Rochester Gun Show is this weekend...Sat. Sept 11 8am -5pm. Sunday, Sept , 12, 8am-4pm. Admission is only $3.00...FREE PARKING &amp; GOOD FOOD AVAILABLE. Fulton County Fairgrounds, 1009 W. 3rd St. 115 Table show---profits from this show go back into the community of Fulton County...We would be happy to see you! Call 574-936-4431 for information:welcome:</div>

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			<dc:creator>Binky65</dc:creator>
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			<title>Big R in Wabash</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 00:39:14 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[*Stopped on my way back from MI. I didn't have a lot of time, what I saw impressed me. Full racks of long guns, cases stocked with handguns and** ammo**, even reloading supplies. Didn't think to look close for primers.
Prices:
S&W MP .45ACP   $459
Glock 22 .40 S&W GRN  $459
Ruger 22/45 flat side $259

Forgive me if I'm off, this was from memory *]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><b><font size="4"><font face="Times New Roman">Stopped on my way back from MI. I didn't have a lot of time, what I saw impressed me. Full racks of long guns, cases stocked with handguns and</font></font></b><b><font size="4"><font face="Times New Roman"> ammo</font></font></b><b><font size="4"><font face="Times New Roman">, even reloading supplies. Didn't think to look close for primers.<br />
Prices:<br />
S&amp;W MP .45ACP   $459<br />
Glock 22 .40 S&amp;W GRN  $459<br />
Ruger 22/45 flat side $259<br />
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Forgive me if I'm off, this was from memory </font></font></b></div>

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			<dc:creator>Duce</dc:creator>
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			<title>Reloading Table</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 00:31:52 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I have seen a few very nice reloading tables that some INGOers have built.  I'm void of time and talent to build anything that I would be proud of.  That said, is there anywhere I can purchase a sturdy table that is approximately 4' tall and maybe 3'x5'?  

I know many will say to head to Lowe's and get the materials and build the darn thing.  I _could_ do it, but I really don't have the time to spare on a weekend project right now.  So, any ideas?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I have seen a few very nice reloading tables that some INGOers have built.  I'm void of time and talent to build anything that I would be proud of.  That said, is there anywhere I can purchase a sturdy table that is approximately 4' tall and maybe 3'x5'?  <br />
<br />
I know many will say to head to Lowe's and get the materials and build the darn thing.  I <u>could</u> do it, but I really don't have the time to spare on a weekend project right now.  So, any ideas?</div>

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			<dc:creator>Que</dc:creator>
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			<title>hunting/long distance scopes</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 00:23:02 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I am looking for a scope that will serve a couple different purposes.  I primarily hunt, but on occasion I have a chance to do some long range shooting.  By long range shooting I'm saying I have a couple of places I can shoot out to 1000yds.  I'm looking for a scope that will suit my needs.  I currently have a Remington 700 30-06.  I've been thinking of going to a 308 or up to a 7mm mag.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.  Thanks!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I am looking for a scope that will serve a couple different purposes.  I primarily hunt, but on occasion I have a chance to do some long range shooting.  By long range shooting I'm saying I have a couple of places I can shoot out to 1000yds.  I'm looking for a scope that will suit my needs.  I currently have a Remington 700 30-06.  I've been thinking of going to a 308 or up to a 7mm mag.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.  Thanks!</div>

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			<dc:creator>hunter46140</dc:creator>
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			<title>My thanks to INGO, win a free 10/22</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 23:37:18 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>As a showing of my appreciation to INGO and the members of INGO I am giving away a Ruger 10/22. I have had a tremendous amount of construction work from members that has helped me this year keep busy.

The gun will be this configuration or close to it.

Image: http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/images/D11/70/70628.jpg 

Here are the rules. 

This is only open to site supporters and moderators of INGO. 

What ???your not a site supporter no problem, send the money to fenway by the time that I close this and your good to go.

I have a number that is written on paper that was witnessed by my wife, boys and put in my safe.(I would of used my neighbor but hes an INGO member):D

Post one number between 0-12,000. The closest to that number will win the rifle. (you only get one chance)

Depending on where the winner is located at in Indiana will determine what dealer we use to transfer/order the gun through.

This will close at 8pm on September the 17th 2010.

Happy guessing.:ingo:</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>As a showing of my appreciation to INGO and the members of INGO I am giving away a Ruger 10/22. I have had a tremendous amount of construction work from members that has helped me this year keep busy.<br />
<br />
The gun will be this configuration or close to it.<br />
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<img src="http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/images/D11/70/70628.jpg" border="0" alt="" onload="NcodeImageResizer.createOn(this);" /><br />
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Here are the rules. <br />
<br />
This is only open to site supporters and moderators of INGO. <br />
<br />
What ???your not a site supporter no problem, send the money to fenway by the time that I close this and your good to go.<br />
<br />
I have a number that is written on paper that was witnessed by my wife, boys and put in my safe.(I would of used my neighbor but hes an INGO member):D<br />
<br />
Post one number between 0-12,000. The closest to that number will win the rifle. (you only get one chance)<br />
<br />
Depending on where the winner is located at in Indiana will determine what dealer we use to transfer/order the gun through.<br />
<br />
This will close at 8pm on September the 17th 2010.<br />
<br />
Happy guessing.:ingo:</div>

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			<dc:creator>IndyMonkey</dc:creator>
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			<title>shepherd scopes????</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 23:23:46 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I have benn thinking a lot lately about buying one and putting it on my  30-06.  Has anyone here had any experience with one??  I am looking for any input you can give.</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I have benn thinking a lot lately about buying one and putting it on my  30-06.  Has anyone here had any experience with one??  I am looking for any input you can give.</div>

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			<dc:creator>hunter46140</dc:creator>
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			<title>springfield is awesome</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 21:37:34 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>dont know how many of you have delt with springfields customer service.but after a mishap with gunscrub and the finish on my loaded 1911.i called them the lady was very nice and they gave me everything i needed to send it in.the only thing they asked is what happened.so i called today not even 2 weeks after sending it in the lady told me it was refinished and i would probably have it tomorrow or friday.i cant wait to see it.i will post pictures it had an idiot mark from previous owner so i wonder if it is like brand new.so anyone that has a springfield,im pretty sure you gonna get top notch help if you have gun issues.the moral to this story is dont use gun scrub lol.</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>dont know how many of you have delt with springfields customer service.but after a mishap with gunscrub and the finish on my loaded 1911.i called them the lady was very nice and they gave me everything i needed to send it in.the only thing they asked is what happened.so i called today not even 2 weeks after sending it in the lady told me it was refinished and i would probably have it tomorrow or friday.i cant wait to see it.i will post pictures it had an idiot mark from previous owner so i wonder if it is like brand new.so anyone that has a springfield,im pretty sure you gonna get top notch help if you have gun issues.the moral to this story is dont use gun scrub lol.</div>

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			<dc:creator>nova512</dc:creator>
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			<title>Gnat Shooting</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 21:23:50 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[anybody seen this? 

YouTube - "Gnat" shooting -RC Planes and Shotguns!]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[CROWN POINT GUN & KNIFE SHOW THIS WEEKEND]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 15:56:12 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[*CROWN POINT GUN & KNIFE SHOW THIS WEEKEND*
 
Hours:
Sept.11 Sat. 9am-5pm (local time)
Sept.12 Sun. 9am-3pm (local time)
 
Location: Lake County Fairgrounds-889 Court St. Crown, Point, IN.
 
Admission: $5 (Free Parking)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><b>CROWN POINT GUN &amp; KNIFE SHOW THIS WEEKEND</b><br />
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Hours:<br />
Sept.11 Sat. 9am-5pm (local time)<br />
Sept.12 Sun. 9am-3pm (local time)<br />
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Location: Lake County Fairgrounds-889 Court St. Crown, Point, IN.<br />
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Admission: $5 (Free Parking)</div>

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			<dc:creator>Bradsknives</dc:creator>
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			<title>Anatomy of a Crap Duracoat Job (graphic images)</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 11:26:16 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I received 2 firearms the other day to refinish. Both had been done by someone who claimed to be a "certified" Duracoat refinisher. At first glance it appeared to be a case of bad prep work. Easily enough. However, after disassembling and a nice dunk in my degrease solution the coating instantly melted and peeled off. This so called "certified" Duracoat refinisher used spray paint. It was enough to make me want to vomit. Below are some photo of how it looked before. Take note on the lazyness of the application. So, if you get a good deal on a refinishing job be aware. You always get what you pay for. 


Image: http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y218/locknloadllc/CIMG2931.jpg 


Image: http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y218/locknloadllc/CIMG2932.jpg 


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Image: http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y218/locknloadllc/CIMG2935.jpg 

Is it possible to coat the entire barrel???

Image: http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y218/locknloadllc/CIMG2936.jpg 


Image: http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y218/locknloadllc/CIMG2937.jpg 

No prep done here. Note the original blueing. 

Image: http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y218/locknloadllc/CIMG2939.jpg 

Too lazy to remove the hand guard. Screw it. We'll just coat around it. :rolleyes:

Image: http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y218/locknloadllc/CIMG2941.jpg 

I can't disassemble the rings. Thats wwwaaayyy too much work. 

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I received 2 firearms the other day to refinish. Both had been done by someone who claimed to be a &quot;certified&quot; Duracoat refinisher. At first glance it appeared to be a case of bad prep work. Easily enough. However, after disassembling and a nice dunk in my degrease solution the coating instantly melted and peeled off. This so called &quot;certified&quot; Duracoat refinisher used spray paint. It was enough to make me want to vomit. Below are some photo of how it looked before. Take note on the lazyness of the application. So, if you get a good deal on a refinishing job be aware. You always get what you pay for. <br />
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<img src="http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y218/locknloadllc/CIMG2931.jpg" border="0" alt="" onload="NcodeImageResizer.createOn(this);" /><br />
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Is it possible to coat the entire barrel???<br />
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<img src="http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y218/locknloadllc/CIMG2936.jpg" border="0" alt="" onload="NcodeImageResizer.createOn(this);" /><br />
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No prep done here. Note the original blueing. <br />
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<img src="http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y218/locknloadllc/CIMG2939.jpg" border="0" alt="" onload="NcodeImageResizer.createOn(this);" /><br />
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Too lazy to remove the hand guard. Screw it. We'll just coat around it. :rolleyes:<br />
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<img src="http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y218/locknloadllc/CIMG2941.jpg" border="0" alt="" onload="NcodeImageResizer.createOn(this);" /><br />
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I can't disassemble the rings. Thats wwwaaayyy too much work. <br />
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			<dc:creator>Hoosier Gun Coat</dc:creator>
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			<title>Will you shoot me with your gun?</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 01:46:10 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Will you shoot me with your gun? 
:ranton:
That was what my 4 year old cousin asked me yesterday while at a family BBQ. I told his mother he asked me that and her response was he plays Call of Duty to much.  WTH is a 4 year old doing playing Call of Duty!!!!!

Apparently they dont buy him any games, he just plays his dads, which are not suited for a child that age

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Will you shoot me with your gun? <br />
:ranton:<br />
That was what my 4 year old cousin asked me yesterday while at a family BBQ. I told his mother he asked me that and her response was he plays Call of Duty to much.  WTH is a 4 year old doing playing Call of Duty!!!!!<br />
<br />
Apparently they dont buy him any games, he just plays his dads, which are not suited for a child that age<br />
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:ranton:</div>

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			<dc:creator>rmabrey</dc:creator>
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			<title>Labor Day range trip AAR (pic/vid heavy)</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 00:30:55 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Over the holiday, I joined fellow INGOers *troy_mp* and *-ski-* and their friend David S. for some shooting at Troy's family's farm in southern Indiana.  The range is in a cow pasture and is a bit of a PITA to get back to, but has plenty of room to spread out, a nice big hill serving as a natural backstop, and the capability of setting up shots out to 400 yards (we did not avail ourselves of that this time). 

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The staging area and range, with barricades and steel targets on the far end, pistol/shotgun paper targets in the middle with distances marked at 3, 7, 15 and 25 yards, and the trap machine at the near end

In the morning, we concentrated on shotgun work, as both troy and -ski- wanted to pattern their Benellis with buckshot for home defense purposes. David shot -ski-'s Savage .410 single-shot, and I shot my Saiga-12 house gun. I took the others through an abbreviated defensive shotgun primer, covering the proper stance and stock positioning, a couple different ready positions, loading (administrative, emergency and tactical) and unloading, followed by a discussion of different types of loads and an overview of the zone concept. From approximately 5 yards, we each fired multiple types of buckshot loads to see how each gun patterned with them, and noting how the same load patterned differently out of different guns (even ones of the same make/model). We then moved back to 7 and 10 yards and repeated the process, noting the changes in pattern size and deviation from POA with each load. Unsurprisingly, Federal Premium Tactical 00 buck w/ Flite Control wad (LE133 00) produced the tightest and most consistent patterns out of my Saiga-12 at all distances, reinforcing its place as the load of choice for my house gun. I think it made believers out of Troy and -ski- as well. 

After a PHENOMENAL home-cooked lunch put on by Troy's mom, we hit the range again, trading our shotguns for a variety of rifles, both historic and modern. Long guns present included an AK-101 in 5.56mm, AK-105 SBR in 5.45x39, Saiga 7.62x39, a couple AR-15s in 5.56, a Persian Mauser in 8mm, an Australian-built Enfield in .303, and a Savage combination gun (.22LR over .410). 

First, the classics:
Image: http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i188/shooter521/range%20trips/9_6_10/DSCN2763.jpg 
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Then the Evil Black Rifles:
Image: http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i188/shooter521/range%20trips/9_6_10/DSCN2801.jpg 
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YouTube - 20100906 134530
We ended the long gun portion of the program with my M-11/9 SMG, which the guys really got a kick out of. Troy's dad and brother-in-law ended up coming down and shooting it, too; multiple full-auto cherries got popped that day. :yesway:

The guys join the Church of the Brass Rainbow:
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YouTube - DSCN2818
50-round burst from the shooter's end:
YouTube - 20100906 142014
Then we moved on to the handguns, which included a couple Glock 19s, a Glock 34, a 6" S&W M&P .38, a couple Ruger .22s, and an original Colt Peacemaker .45. 

Glocks and steel... a familiar combination!
YouTube - 20100906 161758
Peacemaker .45LC:
Image: http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i188/shooter521/range%20trips/9_6_10/DSCN2851.jpg 

The M&P got much play:
Image: http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i188/shooter521/range%20trips/9_6_10/DSCN2838.jpg 
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(hey, what's this spinny thing in the middle of the gun?)

Finally, we got the shotguns back out for a bit of improvised trap:
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Great fun was had by all. Thanks to Troy's family for their wonderful hospitality, and to Troy, -ski- and David for providing neat guns and good company. Looking forward to next time!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Over the holiday, I joined fellow INGOers <b>troy_mp</b> and <b>-ski-</b> and their friend David S. for some shooting at Troy's family's farm in southern Indiana.  The range is in a cow pasture and is a bit of a PITA to get back to, but has plenty of room to spread out, a nice big hill serving as a natural backstop, and the capability of setting up shots out to 400 yards (we did not avail ourselves of that this time). <br />
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The staging area and range, with barricades and steel targets on the far end, pistol/shotgun paper targets in the middle with distances marked at 3, 7, 15 and 25 yards, and the trap machine at the near end<br />
<br />
In the morning, we concentrated on shotgun work, as both troy and -ski- wanted to pattern their Benellis with buckshot for home defense purposes. David shot -ski-'s Savage .410 single-shot, and I shot my Saiga-12 house gun. I took the others through an abbreviated defensive shotgun primer, covering the proper stance and stock positioning, a couple different ready positions, loading (administrative, emergency and tactical) and unloading, followed by a discussion of different types of loads and an overview of the zone concept. From approximately 5 yards, we each fired multiple types of buckshot loads to see how each gun patterned with them, and noting how the same load patterned differently out of different guns (even ones of the same make/model). We then moved back to 7 and 10 yards and repeated the process, noting the changes in pattern size and deviation from POA with each load. Unsurprisingly, Federal Premium Tactical 00 buck w/ Flite Control wad (LE133 00) produced the tightest and most consistent patterns out of my Saiga-12 at all distances, reinforcing its place as the load of choice for my house gun. I think it made believers out of Troy and -ski- as well. <br />
<br />
After a PHENOMENAL home-cooked lunch put on by Troy's mom, we hit the range again, trading our shotguns for a variety of rifles, both historic and modern. Long guns present included an AK-101 in 5.56mm, AK-105 SBR in 5.45x39, Saiga 7.62x39, a couple AR-15s in 5.56, a Persian Mauser in 8mm, an Australian-built Enfield in .303, and a Savage combination gun (.22LR over .410). <br />
<br />
First, the classics:<br />
<img src="http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i188/shooter521/range%20trips/9_6_10/DSCN2763.jpg" border="0" alt="" onload="NcodeImageResizer.createOn(this);" /><br />
<img src="http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i188/shooter521/range%20trips/9_6_10/DSCN2764.jpg" border="0" alt="" onload="NcodeImageResizer.createOn(this);" /><br />
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<br />
Then the Evil Black Rifles:<br />
<img src="http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i188/shooter521/range%20trips/9_6_10/DSCN2801.jpg" border="0" alt="" onload="NcodeImageResizer.createOn(this);" /><br />
<img src="http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i188/shooter521/range%20trips/9_6_10/DSCN2800.jpg" border="0" alt="" onload="NcodeImageResizer.createOn(this);" /><br />
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We ended the long gun portion of the program with my M-11/9 SMG, which the guys really got a kick out of. Troy's dad and brother-in-law ended up coming down and shooting it, too;<i> multiple</i> full-auto cherries got popped that day. :yesway:<br />
<br />
The guys join the Church of the Brass Rainbow:<br />
<img src="http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i188/shooter521/range%20trips/9_6_10/DSCN2814.jpg" border="0" alt="" onload="NcodeImageResizer.createOn(this);" /><br />
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50-round burst from the shooter's end:<br />
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Then we moved on to the handguns, which included a couple Glock 19s, a Glock 34, a 6&quot; S&amp;W M&amp;P .38, a couple Ruger .22s, and an original Colt Peacemaker .45. <br />
<br />
Glocks and steel... a familiar combination!<br />
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                        <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6jFBtlc9jo" title="YouTube - 20100906 161758" target="_blank">YouTube - 20100906 161758</a>
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Peacemaker .45LC:<br />
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<br />
The M&amp;P got much play:<br />
<img src="http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i188/shooter521/range%20trips/9_6_10/DSCN2838.jpg" border="0" alt="" onload="NcodeImageResizer.createOn(this);" /><br />
<img src="http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i188/shooter521/range%20trips/9_6_10/DSCN2821.jpg" border="0" alt="" onload="NcodeImageResizer.createOn(this);" /><br />
<img src="http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i188/shooter521/range%20trips/9_6_10/DSCN2823.jpg" border="0" alt="" onload="NcodeImageResizer.createOn(this);" /><br />
<img src="http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i188/shooter521/range%20trips/9_6_10/DSCN2827.jpg" border="0" alt="" onload="NcodeImageResizer.createOn(this);" /><br />
(hey, what's this spinny thing in the middle of the gun?)<br />
<br />
Finally, we got the shotguns back out for a bit of improvised trap:<br />
<img src="http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i188/shooter521/range%20trips/9_6_10/DSCN2848.jpg" border="0" alt="" onload="NcodeImageResizer.createOn(this);" /><br />
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<br />
Great fun was had by all. Thanks to Troy's family for their wonderful hospitality, and to Troy, -ski- and David for providing neat guns and good company. Looking forward to next time!</div>

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			<title>Today at Atterbury</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[I had a great time shooting at Atterbury today.  I "tried" to sight in the Mosin Nagant at 100 yds, but the front sight is loose.  Oh well, I got a couple on the paper.   I've also been working on some loads for my .40 Witness, so I shot 50 each of two different loads with 140gr Missouri Cast Bullets, then another 50 WWB for kicks.  

6gr. Unique and 140 gr LTCFP 5 10 shot groups

For kicks, 3 10 shot groups WWB, and 1 20 shot group(center)
Here is a link to my pics.
INGunOwners - oldbikelvr's Album: 7 yds at Atterbury (http://ingunowners.com/forums/album.php?albumid=1829)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I had a great time shooting at Atterbury today.  I &quot;tried&quot; to sight in the Mosin Nagant at 100 yds, but the front sight is loose.  Oh well, I got a couple on the paper.   I've also been working on some loads for my .40 Witness, so I shot 50 each of two different loads with 140gr Missouri Cast Bullets, then another 50 WWB for kicks.  <br />
<br />
6gr. Unique and 140 gr LTCFP 5 10 shot groups<br />
<br />
For kicks, 3 10 shot groups WWB, and 1 20 shot group(center)<br />
Here is a link to my pics.<br />
<a href="http://ingunowners.com/forums/album.php?albumid=1829" target="_blank">INGunOwners - oldbikelvr's Album: 7 yds at Atterbury</a></div>

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			<title>2011 SHOT Show</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 17:40:13 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[SHOT Show Tickets....check!
Room Reservations.......check!
Flight Reservations.......check!
 
The stage is set for my first S.H.O.T. show.  I can't figgin' wait!!
 
I'm Vegas bound Jan 18-22nd!!!
 
SHOT Home - SHOT Show (http://www.shotshow.org/)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>SHOT Show Tickets....check!<br />
Room Reservations.......check!<br />
Flight Reservations.......check!<br />
 <br />
The stage is set for my first S.H.O.T. show.  I can't figgin' wait!!<br />
 <br />
I'm Vegas bound Jan 18-22nd!!!<br />
 <br />
<a href="http://www.shotshow.org/" target="_blank">SHOT Home - SHOT Show</a></div>

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