Greenwood man sentenced to prison for firearms dealing

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  • hoosierdoc

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    THard6

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    haven't heard about it, but not at all surprised.. it's the law and I see it taking place all the time. I have turned people in for it and I will continue to do so!
    I sold a gun on INGO, and I got home and within the hour I saw the gun posted on armslist and it was marked up and he was selling the gun in a "lot"
    scum-bags.
     
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    hoosierdoc

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    the law deals with purchasing with the intent to sell, right? I know it's a gray area, but how many guns can you sell without needing an FFL? That's probably the eternal changing line of who-knows-what. "I can't describe porn, but I know it when I see it" sort of thing.
     

    MrsGungho

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    I know the story. While a lot of what the son says is true, he glossed over the fact that Donny was dealing firearms at every gun show he set up at. He was careful on who he sold to, but he still did it with the intent to make a living. If your intent is to make a living selling firearms, you have to have an FFL license. Yes there are many other vendors doing the same thing. Why Donny was targeted, I do not know other that what his son eludes to.
    There is so much more to the story, I won't go into everything I know. I won't smear his name anymore than has been.
     

    ViperJock

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    haven't heard about it, but not at all surprised.. it's the law and i see it taking place all the time. I have turned people in for it and I will continue to do so!
    I sold a gun on INGO, and I got home and within the hour I saw the gun posted on armslist and it was marked up and he was selling the gun in a "lot"
    scum-bags.

    So whats your problem with this guy exactly? That he marked up the gun you sold him? Are you just whining that he made more off the sale than you did? Cause it sure sounds like it. Unless there is more to your story you are basically accusing the guy of being a good businessman. Do you know that he did not have an FFL?
     

    Miles42

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    I know the people now trying to make a few dollars dealing with the high demand AR market need to be real careful about what and how they go about doing so.
     

    Glocker 400

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    haven't heard about it, but not at all surprised.. it's the law and i see it taking place all the time. I have turned people in for it and I will continue to do so!
    I sold a gun on INGO, and I got home and within the hour I saw the gun posted on armslist and it was marked up and he was selling the gun in a "lot"
    scum-bags.

    What makes him a scumbag?
     

    Miles42

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    I would not call the man a scum bag if you received your asking price for the firearm you where selling. I would also turn the man in if you suspect he is dealing firearms without a license.
     

    shibumiseeker

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    near Bedford on a whole lot of land.
    I would not call the man a scum bag if you received your asking price for the firearm you where selling. I would also turn the man in if you suspect he is dealing firearms without a license.

    While I will not break the law, I also will not turn in someone I suspect, but have no real proof, of breaking a law that in my opinion shouldn't be a law in the first place as I feel that requiring a license to sell firearms is an infringement on the 2A.
     

    PGRChaplain

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    "Oct. 2012, an Iowa man who sold over 800 guns during a four-year period (nearly 4 times what Klinge allegedly sold in the same time span)"

    Thats 200 + gun sales in 4 years. he's one of the Gun Show guys with a "Private Colection" sign on his table. I feel sorry for his kids but he needed a FFL to do that much business. :patriot:
     

    ghuns

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    Sadly, we are now facing the possibility, if not certainty, of "universal" background checks because of people like this. Go to any small town gun show and the number of tables with a sign that reads private collection dwarfs the number of tables set up by actual dealers. Because these guys don't want to deal with the hassle or expense of getting their FFL, the rest of us will soon not be able to buy or sell a single firearm without the hassle and expense of meeting at a FFL and documenting, and paying for, the transaction.
     

    jaybird_123

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    Well, to me, any transaction where a firearm is sold or traded can be deemed "firearms dealing". Does not matter if it is one time or many, you would still be dealing in firearms. I dont believe an FFL is needed, however I do believe caution and a (nics?) check be done so as not to sell, trade, to a felon. Not sure if its called "nics" or what.
     

    boozoo

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    Tough case..... I wonder what the real deal is on that OA93 that got him noticed.

    I always wonder about people wheeling and dealing though... I don't recall there being a very clear standard on when there needs to be an FFL. Even in home brew and microbrewing, there are clear caps on annual output.
     

    Scutter01

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    weird, I posted this link and it's now a comment on their website at the same time I posted it. Hrm.

    It's a trackback link, not a comment. They're seeing the traffic from being linked on INGunOwners and using that to automatically create the trackback. Most blogs and news sites do it so that people can see who's talking about their story.
     

    Chr15topher

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    Well, to me, any transaction where a firearm is sold or traded can be deemed "firearms dealing". Does not matter if it is one time or many, you would still be dealing in firearms. I dont believe an FFL is needed, however I do believe caution and a (nics?) check be done so as not to sell, trade, to a felon. Not sure if its called "nics" or what.

    NICS is correct.

    Also, I agree with a background check. It would be great if there was a 1-800 number you could call during a transaction to process a simple background check. No details... just a yes or no. You could then just write down an approval number on a bill of sale.
     

    HnK

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    I know when I was trying to find a 1911 I liked a while back I probably looked like a dealer. But I always lost money. Bought it shot it didn't like it and sold it at a loss. But I think they are goign to try and crack down on this kind of stuff. Just have to wait and see.
     
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