Strange Police UD, Key Ring (Florida, where else?)

[Kirk Freeman]

The Chamber of Commerce isn't going to like this. A police unintentional discharge in Edgewater, Florida.

The Captain's Journal » Edgewater Police Investigate Officer?s Negligent Discharge Of AR-15

Official pooooleeeece explanation is a key ring:

Key ring blamed for Edgewater officer's accidental AR-15 rifle shot | News-JournalOnline.com

Me thinks a donkey d**k single point sling is the culprit.

Watch your dingleberries, boys. Watch all that Timmy Tactical b.s., tape it up, or better yet, cut if off or leave it off. A $3 carry strap from the gun show will serve better and not strain your Chief's budget.

Guns DO go bang even without fingers.

 

[Vlad the Impaler]

I'm not buying the key ring story. Me thinks it's a CYA move.
No more key rings for officers in Edgewater. Sure beats no fingers!

BTW, I'm glad I don't live on a street named Kumquat Drive.

 

[in625shooter]

Did not read the link but will chime in, in typical INGO fasion. Not defending anyone (ie the Officer) but some agencies do issue keys on key rings that have the dog chain type attachments on them. They are attached to the belt by key keepers. I have seen some get "tangled" in some unthinkable places but have never seen one cause a UD/AD whatever they call it these days. I could see that happening with a Glock/M&P or similar trigger.

 

[rgrimm01]

In the article, I missed the part where the possessor of the rifle was charged with reckless endangerment?

 

[Leo]

A key ring is not an excuse for stupid.

 

[Denny347]

In the article, I missed the part where the possessor of the rifle was charged with reckless endangerment?

Ha, in Marion County anyway, no one gets charged with that...I've tried. You have to show they were trying to hit someone for the prosecutor to file. We stopped trying to enforce that law at New Years when we find people shooting in the air because the prosecutor won't touch them.

 

[in625shooter]

A key ring is not an excuse for stupid.

Leo, again not defending anything just discussing but if you have NEVER had a AR 15 or MP 5 safety get flipped to fire from gear you have not carried on that long. I say this as a 11 year member being on as well as training with SWAT teams in the Department of Justice. We did not carry "keys" on our tactical gear but I have seen on different live fire shoot and move courses once a member shooting his MP 5 engaged went to safe (I was the safety man running behind him and observed it) he put it over his back as our SOP and ran the course (we trained like the real thing) and about 100 yards into the run we all heard this muffled "gack" and saw some dust fly. It was the safety on his MP 5 not only off but the strap we fasten them with manipulated the trigger. And we were very well trained and even worked with various FBI SWAT teams so it was not "operator error" by any means.

While there is a big difference between intense tactical training and walking into a room a vaguely written new paper article is not cause for me to want the guy hanged right away. In 28 years of carrying a gun for work in one for or another I have seen a couple times where things "just happened"

 

[Jeremy1066]

Don't blame the person, blame the key ring!!

 

[BehindBlueI's]

If only someone would design an AR-15 with a thumb safety.

 

[in625shooter]

If only someone would design an AR-15 with a thumb safety.

And those thumb safeties being a mechanical device Never break or get flipped off inadvertently either!!!

 

[Kirk Freeman]

If only someone would design an AR-15 with a thumb safety.

"Hey, BBI, I did design a thumb safety into it. Let me flip this over and show you."

 

[BehindBlueI's]

"Hey, BBI, I did design a thumb safety into it. Let me flip this over and show you."

That's cool. Now if only it came in a different caliber.

 

[Drail]

Running around with loaded weapons AND having a keyring flapping around to snag on everything IS a really dumb idea. They need to clean up their gear.

 

[KLB]

Wait. This couldn't have happened. I read that this only happens when people don't have training.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

That's cool. Now if only it came in a different caliber.

Yo, dog, I heard you like different calibers. So I got you a different caliber, the original .222, for your different caliber fetish . . . oh, and I took off the lawn mower muffler.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Yo, dog, I heard you like different calibers. So I got you a different caliber, the original .222, for your different caliber fetish . . . oh, and I took off the lawn mower muffler.

Pfft, you aren't tricking me. No rails? How am I going to hang my tactical thingies on it? And a single point sling so it can bang me in the jibbly bits when I run?

 

[sharkey]

Pfft, you aren't tricking me. No rails? How am I going to hang my tactical thingies on it? And a single point sling so it can bang me in the jibbly bits when I run?

Get a sling that clips to the barrel.

Should provide a nice swing, and a muzzle-up orientation to make a sight-verified chamber check quick and easy.

 

[maceace]

Pfft, you aren't tricking me. No rails? How am I going to hang my tactiCOOL thingies on it? And a single point sling so it can bang me in the jibbly bits when I run?

i corrected that for u

 

[maceace]

 

[88GT]

Ha, in Marion County anyway, no one gets charged with that...I've tried. You have to show they were trying to hit someone for the prosecutor to file. We stopped trying to enforce that law at New Years when we find people shooting in the air because the prosecutor won't touch them.

Is this the current prosecutor or prior ones as well. I'm beginning to think you have a professional dislike for the prosecutorial choices made in Marion County.

Pfft, you aren't tricking me. No rails? How am I going to hang my tactical thingies on it? And a single point sling so it can bang me in the jibbly bits when I run?

I thought those came pre-assembled at birth.