Republicans stole 2004 election?

[Fletch]

It's good to see the right doesn't have a monopoly on tin foil...

Forget Anonymous: Evidence Suggests GOP Hacked, Stole 2004 Election | Benzinga.com

 

[Jake46184]

In a fair, untainted count of the votes in 2000 and 2004, GWB won easily. There was nothing fair or untainted about the count in either election. It's the ONLY thing that made either close.

 

[rambone]

The Establishment stole from the Establishment. How would America be any different today if john Kerry won? Slightly more Welfare State and slightly less Warfare State? woo.

Anyways, weren't Kerry and Bush frat brothers in their little pagan cult, Skull & Bones?

 

[96firephoenix]

this author lost any credibility when he said GWB "destroyed the surplus." there was a $1T deficit when he took office. it increased to $3T in 8 years. after 2.5 years, Obama has brought it to $4.5T. Those are facts, not conjecture.

Dispute facts, lose credibility

 

[Designer99]

this author lost any credibility when he said GWB "destroyed the surplus." there was a $1T deficit when he took office. it increased to $3T in 8 years. after 2.5 years, Obama has brought it to $4.5T. Those are facts, not conjecture.

Dispute facts, lose credibility

Not sure about those deficit numbers, but here's a chart that shows the history of raising the debt ceiling. Bushy raised a lot.

Source: http://crooksandliars.com/jon-perr/10-inconvenient-truths-about-debt-ceiling

 

[IncendiaryGunner]

This isnt about a recount, or re tabulating the output of votes...

It is about the voting machines themselves, and the programming that enabled votes to be "added or subtracted".... You can recount the totals all day coming to the same conclusion, but if the totals were manipulated before you counted them....

I wish I could find the video - a programmer from the company testified before congress if I recall correctly.

The issue this discusses is not about who counts the votes, it is about the inherit dangers of electronic voting machines. While it would be possible to add a much greater degree of security and voter validation employing public key encryption (keys that encrypt an individuals vote, and then allow the voter to validate their vote with a key after the votes are tabulated) the cost to implement that type of system would be great.

How the systems work now, we have no assurance that the votes are not manipulated by those that design the systems - and some that have worked for the companies that program the voting machines have spoken out about alleged manipulations.

 

[IncendiaryGunner]

Were votes manipulated? I have no idea, because I was not present nor did I have a hand in the production of the voting machines... Could these machines be manipulated in the manner that some allege? Yes... and we currently have very little in means of voter validation.

 

[04DarkShadowGT]

this author lost any credibility when he said GWB "destroyed the surplus." there was a $1T deficit when he took office. it increased to $3T in 8 years. after 2.5 years, Obama has brought it to $4.5T. Those are facts, not conjecture.

Dispute facts, lose credibility

Link to those figures?

 

[IndySSD]

Were votes manipulated? I have no idea, because I was not present nor did I have a hand in the production of the voting machines... Could these machines be manipulated in the manner that some allege? Yes... and we currently have very little in means of voter validation.

This is a very valid point....

 

[Hornett]

The author is just mad because the Republicans fixed the vote better than the Democrats did.

 

[jgreiner]

It's good to see the right doesn't have a monopoly on tin foil...

Forget Anonymous: Evidence Suggests GOP Hacked, Stole 2004 Election | Benzinga.com

No...THIS is stealing an election:

 

[Expat]

I remember reading an article last year that stating in most Dem controlled areas, the dead and other fraudulent votes could be adding 5-10% to the Dem totals.

 

[IncendiaryGunner]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEzY2tnwExs