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    Quote Originally Posted by mrjarrell View Post
    It takes a states governor and legislator to set up those barricades, not those of out here on the streets. Of course you republicrats won't go anywhere near what we need to do. That takes courage and a will to enact change, something your ilk will never countenance. Get back to us on the next heroic moves of your buddies after the courts rule in favour of Obama.
    Just what I expected. You're not actually doing anything other than keyboard commandoing. That takes SO much courage.
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    Hold on a second. Carmel... you're correct in that that doesn't usually do much good. Rather than simply point out that fact, do you have a suggestion of what people should do instead? Sue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarmelHP View Post
    Just what I expected. You're not actually doing anything other than keyboard commandoing. That takes SO much courage.
    One person is just one person. If more people call for nullification, rather than the cowards way out, I'll be right there. You can continue to cower in your office and engage in the fed love fest you and your buddies have committed us to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill of Rights View Post
    Hold on a second. Carmel... you're correct in that that doesn't usually do much good. Rather than simply point out that fact, do you have a suggestion of what people should do instead? Sue?

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    So, elections don't work and shouldn't be tried, lawsuits don't work and shouldn't be tried so the first tool we should reach for is civil war? I give up. Who can argue with such logic? And the keyboard commandos who say, "I'll be there!," it's mighty courageous of you since you know it won't happen. Why exactly are we waiting for the governor and legislature to do this again, if it's such a great idea? It's seems Article 3 of the Constitution gives the Supreme Court the power to decide cases and controversies between the United States and the several states, or do we just pick and choose those parts we personally like and anyone who takes it as a package is a "coward." Let's reach right for the bullet box, what buffoonery!
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    No-one said to reach for the bullet box, yet. I stated, and others in other places concur that nullification and the 10th amendment are the best way to go. Skip the robed morons and the likelihood of keeping Obamacare. Go straight to nullification and the right of the state to determine its destiny in these matters. We aren't looking for warfare, that would be up to the feds to start it. The pro nullification folks, like myself aren't looking for a Ft Sumter, just the rights of states to be left alone and decide their own fate where pressing issues are concerned. Your contention that it has to be one thing or nothing is mistaken. As usual, you support the status quo, even while protesting that you don't. Lawsuits are not going to succeed. And this monstrosity shall never be repealed. No gop member has the courage to take away an entitlement, as we've seen for generations.
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    A quick search shows that some states already have legislation passed in regards to nullification and others are either working towards it or have it on the burner. I don't see federal troops lining up on their borders. Haven't heard word one from the Obamanites as to their invasion plans, either. So, what we have is the fact that nullification doesn't have to have warfare as a result.
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    even the CONFEDERATE STATES OF AMERICA tried to avoid war. they gave the troops at ft. sumpter the chance to go home but they refused. no one was killed in the actual bombardment. The guy who talked about refusing to pay taxes in another thread had it somewhat right. the thing is to keep paying taxes to our state, and work at the state level to get the state govt, to refuse to hand over the money to the feds. thats where you will LEGALY get away with not paying taxes, from doing it as the state government, not as individuals. but individuals voices will be the motivator for the states to act. the problem is that the feds have gold stock piles. and if the govt goes down the ****ter then they will still have viable currency in gold and silver, while the states will have to print their own money, but back it with what?? the government wont just lay down and be overthrown by the states either. it will be a mess, but if we wouldnt have let it get to this point we wouldnt have to clean up the big mess. its a series of failures over generations that have put us here. American also needs to stop listening to all these other nations and not allow them to select our policies for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrjarrell View Post
    No-one said to reach for the bullet box, yet.
    So, what's this:
    If they try and force us the governor can call out the Guard and escort all the feds to the state line.
    As usual, you support the status quo, even while protesting that you don't.
    As usual, I support sanity over insanity.
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    *yawn* If I escort you out of a building, does it mean I fired a volley over your head to do so? Nope. But the last thing you want, if the federal dogs do start yapping is to have enemy combatants at your back. They would need to go. And so would the tories who support them.
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    Thats really weird because the states on that site are the same states that have filed suit. The same states have passed it and the same states have made no action. I do agree it is a 10th amendment thing HOWEVER with the SCOUTS being pretty conservative with the exception of one that is hardcore social justice endorser and the recent comments BO made about Roberts I think it was. Im sure they are just waiting to get their hands on this.
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