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Old 03-20-2012   #1 (permalink)
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Firearm Safety

Having seen many of these things personally (as well as probably having done some of them in my younger days) I thought as the weather got nicer and more people are out at various ranges, it would be a good reminder to think gun safety.

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That is a fabulous article!
And it takes over an hour for anyone to respond? Hmmm......

One of the things I do at a range is try to get the most far right hand positions because of what the article calls the "side racker." Can't begin to tell you how many barrels of loaded guns have been pointed at me by "side rackers." Even more egregious is the "back racker," which is a side racker who continues on to 180 degrees to point the gun everyone behind the line, too.

Folks, strongly suggest we read and re-read this article and take it all to heart.
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I dig all the photo examples using the training barrel. Need to get some high res versions and craft them into a nice poster!
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Great article, thanks for the share
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I dig all the photo examples using the training barrel. Need to get some high res versions and craft them into a nice poster!
Great idea! That would be a great poster to see hanging at all the ranges in the area.

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Great read!
We can never worry too much about safety when we handle tools designed to kill people.
I dont agree with one minor thing in this article though, when you are using a training barrel on a real gun you are still breaking the safety rules.
Sure it's safe to do so in that case but that's still breaking the rules.
I know some people that wont even point a "blue gun" training gun at anyone.
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Great read!
I dont agree with one minor thing in this article though, when you are using a training barrel on a real gun you are still breaking the safety rules.
Sure it's safe to do so in that case but that's still breaking the rules.
I know some people that wont even point a "blue gun" training gun at anyone.
Are they? The rules refer to "guns". Is a gun with a plastic dummy barrel a "gun"? Technicalities aside, you have to break rules to illustrate them being broken, unless you want to resort to literal illustrations, of course.

I'm pretty sure I've been the Dangler from time to time, so I appreciated the reminder!
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Are they? The rules refer to "guns". Is a gun with a plastic dummy barrel a "gun"? Technicalities aside, you have to break rules to illustrate them being broken, unless you want to resort to literal illustrations, of course.

I'm pretty sure I've been the Dangler from time to time, so I appreciated the reminder!
It's just depend how you see the rules.If you see them as "all the guns are always loaded" then even a gun with a dummy barrel is still a gun, even the frame of your gun (without slide or barrel) is stil a gun.
Of course we couldn't clean them if they were truelly always loaded.

I know that you have to break rules to illustrate them, and I have nothing against that, it was obviously done safely.

My point is just that when the article says "we are using a training barrel so no rules were broken" that is wrong in my opinion, rules are broken in that case but it's to teach gun safety so that's ok.
You are right it comes to technicalities so it's not really important.
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I know they were trying to make illustrations of "what not to do", but using that training barrel seems to me would let you get into bad habits you'd have to unlearn. I'd kind of rather have the dangerous one to force me to be conscious of what I'm doing, like learning to drive with an actual car vs a simulator.
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Great article. I'm definitely going to pay attention to those the next time I'm at a range. Both to myself and those around me.
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