Stupidity rears its ugly head, again.

quicksdraw · 05-06-2008

Students claim police chief who shot himself was careless - Yahoo! News

Students claim police chief who shot himself was careless

Tue May 6, 8:06 PM ET

RIVERDALE, Utah - The police chief who shot himself in the ankle was waving a loaded pistol and being careless, according to two students who were attending his class to qualify for a concealed-weapons permit. "We were told the gun is the chief's personal sidearm, but it looked to me like he didn't know anything about the gun," Lewis Walker said.
Bart Ulm, another student seeking certification to carry a concealed weapon, said he was surprised Chief Dave Hansen was using a loaded gun to show how it worked.
"Right then, I was very leery, because there's no need to have live ammo in a gun in the class. But I figured he's the chief, so he must know what he's doing," Ulm told the Standard-Examiner of Ogden.
Hansen held the Glock 40 under a table to disassemble it when a bullet fired, Walker said.
The chief cried, "I'm hit," and fell over. Students who were screaming "Officer down!" were urged to call 911.
The gun went off in a conference room Saturday at Riverdale police headquarters.
Hansen was taken to McKay-Dee Hospital in Ogden for surgery and released Monday, Lt. James Ebert said.
Ebert said the findings of an internal investigation would be announced Wednesday. He declined to offer specifics but disputed the accounts of Ulm and Walker, describing the pair as "disgruntled."
Other students "did not share that feeling" about the chief, Ebert told The Associated Press.
Walker said he didn't have confidence in the investigation.
"I think Riverdale police are just trying to keep this quiet and act like the chief is a hero. But if you ask me, he's really stupid," Walker said. "His state certification to teach concealed-weapons classes should be taken away from him. This was totally gross negligence."
Ulm said there was a moment of levity during the emergency.
He said an officer at the scene joked that "instead of shooting himself, he should have used the Taser."

This guy is definitely in the running for this year's Darwin Award.

Pami · 05-06-2008

That's really brilliant. The PD is claiming the students are disgruntled, but I would be too if the guy showing me how to be safe forgot to clear his gun first.

W9ZEB · 05-06-2008

Forgot to clear the gun first? Loaded or not, pointing it at yourself isn't the best idea either.

Scutter01 · 05-06-2008

Disgruntled or not, the guy still shot himself.

BloodEclipse · 05-06-2008

Too bad there was no video.

Ri22o · 05-07-2008

What's a Glock 40? I can't find it on the model list.:rolleyesedit:

strongcrow · 05-07-2008

That Glock 40 must be the one issued to Police Chief's who obviously shouldn't have weapons. Should have been loaded with blanks.

Annie · 05-08-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by quicksdraw

Students claim police chief who shot himself was careless - Yahoo! News

Students claim police chief who shot himself was careless

Tue May 6, 8:06 PM ET

RIVERDALE, Utah - The police chief who shot himself in the ankle was waving a loaded pistol and being careless, according to two students who were attending his class to qualify for a concealed-weapons permit. "We were told the gun is the chief's personal sidearm, but it looked to me like he didn't know anything about the gun," Lewis Walker said.
Bart Ulm, another student seeking certification to carry a concealed weapon, said he was surprised Chief Dave Hansen was using a loaded gun to show how it worked.
"Right then, I was very leery, because there's no need to have live ammo in a gun in the class. But I figured he's the chief, so he must know what he's doing," Ulm told the Standard-Examiner of Ogden.
Hansen held the Glock 40 under a table to disassemble it when a bullet fired, Walker said.
The chief cried, "I'm hit," and fell over. Students who were screaming "Officer down!" were urged to call 911.
The gun went off in a conference room Saturday at Riverdale police headquarters.
Hansen was taken to McKay-Dee Hospital in Ogden for surgery and released Monday, Lt. James Ebert said.
Ebert said the findings of an internal investigation would be announced Wednesday. He declined to offer specifics but disputed the accounts of Ulm and Walker, describing the pair as "disgruntled."
Other students "did not share that feeling" about the chief, Ebert told The Associated Press.
Walker said he didn't have confidence in the investigation.
"I think Riverdale police are just trying to keep this quiet and act like the chief is a hero. But if you ask me, he's really stupid," Walker said. "His state certification to teach concealed-weapons classes should be taken away from him. This was totally gross negligence."
Ulm said there was a moment of levity during the emergency.
He said an officer at the scene joked that "instead of shooting himself, he should have used the Taser."

This guy is definitely in the running for this year's Darwin Award.

Wow. I'm usually all over this stuff, but this is the first time I've seen this one. Thanks for posting it!

Jeff · 05-08-2008

There are two types of people. Those who have had a negligent discharge, and those who are candidates.

05-06-2008	#1 (permalink)
quicksdraw Barack Obama, shearing the sheeple since '08. Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Indianapolis, In. Posts: 319	Stupidity rears its ugly head, again. Students claim police chief who shot himself was careless - Yahoo! News Students claim police chief who shot himself was careless Tue May 6, 8:06 PM ET RIVERDALE, Utah - The police chief who shot himself in the ankle was waving a loaded pistol and being careless, according to two students who were attending his class to qualify for a concealed-weapons permit. "We were told the gun is the chief's personal sidearm, but it looked to me like he didn't know anything about the gun," Lewis Walker said. Bart Ulm, another student seeking certification to carry a concealed weapon, said he was surprised Chief Dave Hansen was using a loaded gun to show how it worked. "Right then, I was very leery, because there's no need to have live ammo in a gun in the class. But I figured he's the chief, so he must know what he's doing," Ulm told the Standard-Examiner of Ogden. Hansen held the Glock 40 under a table to disassemble it when a bullet fired, Walker said. The chief cried, "I'm hit," and fell over. Students who were screaming "Officer down!" were urged to call 911. The gun went off in a conference room Saturday at Riverdale police headquarters. Hansen was taken to McKay-Dee Hospital in Ogden for surgery and released Monday, Lt. James Ebert said. Ebert said the findings of an internal investigation would be announced Wednesday. He declined to offer specifics but disputed the accounts of Ulm and Walker, describing the pair as "disgruntled." Other students "did not share that feeling" about the chief, Ebert told The Associated Press. Walker said he didn't have confidence in the investigation. "I think Riverdale police are just trying to keep this quiet and act like the chief is a hero. But if you ask me, he's really stupid," Walker said. "His state certification to teach concealed-weapons classes should be taken away from him. This was totally gross negligence." Ulm said there was a moment of levity during the emergency. He said an officer at the scene joked that "instead of shooting himself, he should have used the Taser." This guy is definitely in the running for this year's Darwin Award. __________________ "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." ------Winston Churchill “Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.” ------Ronald Reagan Palin '12 Last edited by quicksdraw; 05-06-2008 at 21:28.

05-06-2008	#2 (permalink)
Pami Certified Cheesehead Importer Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Next to W9ZEB Posts: 2,491	That's really brilliant. The PD is claiming the students are disgruntled, but I would be too if the guy showing me how to be safe forgot to clear his gun first. __________________ "Some of the findings are perhaps contrary to popular perceptions; for example, over the 5-year study period [2000-2004], the use of knives/cutting instruments was over three times more prevalent than the use of a gun. (Based on Table 8.)" http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/schoolviolenc...troduction.htm

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W9ZEB BOFH Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: GCC(GCM) d- s: a C+++ UB+++$ P+ L+++$ E--- W++ N+ o-- K- w O- M+$ V-- PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5? X? R tv+ b+ Posts: 2,468	Forgot to clear the gun first? Loaded or not, pointing it at yourself isn't the best idea either. __________________ "Yesterday is history, tomorrow is mystery, and today is a gift; that's why they call it the present." Guns, Unix, and Ham Radio: W9ZEB Dot Org

05-06-2008	#5 (permalink)
BloodEclipse Sheepdog Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,592	Too bad there was no video. __________________ Homer: I’ll have the smiley face breakfast special. Uhh, but could you add a bacon nose? Plus bacon hair, bacon mustache, five o’clock shadow made of bacon bits and a bacon body. Waitress: How about I just shove a pig down your throat? (Homer looks excited) Waitress: I was kidding. Homer: Fine, but the bacon man lives in a bacon house! Waitress: No he doesn’t!

05-07-2008	#7 (permalink)
strongcrow Uses Reloads Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Indy Central Posts: 419	That Glock 40 must be the one issued to Police Chief's who obviously shouldn't have weapons. Should have been loaded with blanks. __________________ "No law ever written has stopped any robber,rapist,or killer like cold blue steel in the hands of his last intended victim." W.Emerson Wright

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Scutter01 Avatar pictured below may not be actual size Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Verify range to target, one RFC792 ICMP type 8 packet only, please. Posts: 4,223	Disgruntled or not, the guy still shot himself.

05-07-2008	#6 (permalink)
Ri22o Modberator Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Speedway Posts: 2,406	What's a Glock 40? I can't find it on the model list.:rolleyesedit:

05-08-2008	#9 (permalink)
Jeff 1911 Elitist Snob Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Greenwood Posts: 301	There are two types of people. Those who have had a negligent discharge, and those who are candidates. __________________ "Yes, beyond any shadow of a doubt, the 1911 IS an outdated design....and that's exactly what I love about it." - Roscoe S. Benson

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