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Old 06-23-2008   #1 (permalink)
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No Loaded Firearms

Over the weekend, I made a trip out to Plainfield Shooting Supplies. I was annoyed to see that they had a "No Loaded Firearms" sign posted on the front door. I complied and unloaded before entering, but I'm curious as to why there are any gun stores in Indiana that have this irritating little message posted. Certainly, we spend plenty of time discussing, and occasionally boycotting, other (non-gun) businesses that ask us to disarm, but gun stores, which should be the one place that respects the RKBA, somehow get a free pass.

Can anyone explain why? If nothing else, it's certainly safer for me to keep my gun holstered than to draw it and unload it and possibly risk an AD/ND in the process. If they mean "unload, unless it's holstered", then the signs should say that. I believe PSS's sign specifically says "ALL guns".

So far, I know of only two shops that are posted. One is Plainfield Shooting Supply, and the other is Popguns.

I've decided that until the signs come down, I refuse to spend a dime at either one.
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Old 06-23-2008   #2 (permalink)
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Over the weekend, I made a trip out to Plainfield Shooting Supplies. I was annoyed to see that they had a "No Loaded Firearms" sign posted on the front door. I complied and unloaded before entering, but I'm curious as to why there are any gun stores in Indiana that have this irritating little message posted. Certainly, we spend plenty of time discussing, and occasionally boycotting, other (non-gun) businesses that ask us to disarm, but gun stores, which should be the one place that respects the RKBA, somehow get a free pass.

Can anyone explain why? If nothing else, it's certainly safer for me to keep my gun holstered than to draw it and unload it and possibly risk an AD/ND in the process. If they mean "unload, unless it's holstered", then the signs should say that. I believe PSS's sign specifically says "ALL guns".

So far, I know of only two shops that are posted. One is Plainfield Shooting Supply, and the other is Popguns.

I've decided that until the signs come down, I refuse to spend a dime at either one.
you are going to have a hard time then in the Indy area. PSS, Bradis, popguns, premier arms all have this policy as far as I know. The only one in the area I have been in that doesn't is Gander, and I don't consider them a gun shop. Of the 4 times I have asked basic firearms questions of their firearms department staff they had no clue to the answers. I told them to google it and left. I think several of them have the rule because you will get guys who will come in there and whip out their weapon to show someone, or try to sell it etc and they want to avoid that. I don't blame them, they have to deal with a lot of idiots. I'll stand in there a lot and watch and listen to people who are coming in, and could totally see someone doing something stupid. I don't mind, I always just put my weapon in my truck safe and go in.
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Youre complaining about being disarmed going into potentially the safest place in the world against crime? Are people THAT SCARED of the world around them? No offense to anyone, but GOODNESS GRACIOUS!

There is always someone ND in a gunstore, its a safety issue!
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Bah. Around here, the signs say personal defense weapons are excluded, but must remain holstered. It's not such a big stretch.
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The only place I remember not having the sign around indy was AAC. The way I see it is that it is their shop and their rules.

If they feel safer with the sign up let them keep it up. I went to the beech grove store and they had the sign up ( and 3 LEO cars outside ) so I walked in and asked if they wanted me to unload, he said it was fine.

If I CC ill just let things be how they are.
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I've seen signs like that. I just make sure I'm concealed.
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Youre complaining about being disarmed going into potentially the safest place in the world against crime? Are people THAT SCARED of the world around them? No offense to anyone, but GOODNESS GRACIOUS!
What does being scared have to do with retaining your 2A rights?
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Many people make the (bad) assumption that all the guns in a gun shop are unloaded.

Many people are in the (bad) habit of putting their finger on the trigger of every gun they pick up.

The rest is just an exercise in probabilities.
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For me its a respect thing. I respect Bob at PSS. And it's his rules, so I respectfully agree to them, life goes on all fine and dandy and i continue to drink koolaid and eat my cupcakes.
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Many people make the (bad) assumption that all the guns in a gun shop are unloaded.

Many people are in the (bad) habit of putting their finger on the trigger of every gun they pick up.
Many people in other parts of the country are somehow able to handle carrying in a gun shop. Does Indiana just breed a hardier class of idiot?
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