Huge FEMA/DoD operation being staged in Indiana; Disaster/Martial Law Training

[rambone]

General Patton had no problems commanding battle tanks on the streets of Washington DC to break up the "Bonus March" protesters in 1932.

And that was on his fellow veterans protesting for benefits.

This "it can't happen here" mentality is demonstrably false.


The Bonus Army

Four hundred infantry from the the 12th Infantry Regiment and two hundred cavalry from the 3rd Cavalry Regiment mobilized against the Bonus Army. The infantry attacked with sabers, bayonets and tear gas. Several Army trucks with machine guns and five or six tanks also moved against the veterans.

[Hemingway]

What the FED doesn't tell you:

They are secretly thrilled that the tin-foil hat crowd thinks the USGOV is competent and organized enough to have files on individuals. And that they have effective contingency plans.

They work hard to not let the truth get out.

[rambone]

We are heading for tough, tumultuous times. I don't particularly want the the Army+FEMA to efficiently know how to lock down my town, in the event of the right "crisis."

[ultraspec]

Originally Posted by rambone

General Patton had no problems commanding battle tanks on the streets of Washington DC to break up the "Bonus March" protesters in 1932.

And that was on his fellow veterans protesting for benefits.

This "it can't happen here" mentality is demonstrably false.


The Bonus Army

WOW I didnt know about that one, guess the history books left that one out for some reason.

Originally Posted by rambone

We are heading for tough, tumultuous times. I don't particularly want the the Army+FEMA to efficiently know how to lock down my town, in the event of the right "crisis."

Im with you on that one. I mean what purpose would they need to lock down a town for? Lock down means trying to keep people in and not out.

[AF Gunner]

Lets not forget all those Fema / whatever that gave all that help in Katrina and were the first to confiscate the local gun owners guns so they could not defend themselves against the rioters thugs and gangs. The NRA had to file a lawsuit so that could get the guns back to the law abiding citizens. When it finally made it through court. They were give keys to simi trailers full of rusted useless guns that were not even marked as to who they belonged to and were worth little more than scrap prices.

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[DRob]

Has anybody layed claim to the official INGO tinfoil hat concession? Perhaps it could be equipped with bungee cords to assist in knee-jerking!

[jeremy]

Originally Posted by DRob

Has anybody layed claim to the official INGO tinfoil hat concession? Perhaps it could be equipped with bungee cords to assist in knee-jerking!

Wanna go in 50/50 on the Business?!

[bingley]

Originally Posted by rambone

I'm not a fan of Federalizing local police, no matter how frequently it is done, how many members have personally joined hands with the Feds, how many tax-dollars are redistributed to Indiana, etc. FEMA and DHS can both go abolish themselves as far as I'm concerned. I'm just not comfortable with local cops being completely accustomed to being taken over by Federal agencies, and for soldiers to be accustomed to doing drills on the streets of America. I'm under no illusions that one Federal branch will be on my side while all others have been shown to gladly oppress Americans given the opportunity.

I find this to be a little uncomfortably close to the "ban guns because guns hurt people" argument. Yes, a structure for coordinating local and federal forces can end up serving dictators, just as a gun, in the hand of the wrong person, can commit crime. But ultimately it's the person who kills, not the gun. It would seem to me we need to watch the government vigilantly so we can ensure democracy is functioning the way it's supposed to. Make sure the gun is in the hands of a good person. Otherwise where do we stop? Maybe disable telecommunication? Break up interstate highways? Destroy all federal computers because they could potentially contain a list of all citizens?

We do need to pool our resources together to do things that are too expensive for us to do individually: public safety, firefighting, education, etc. There is a legitimate purpose. What we need to watch for are abuses. DHS, for example, arrests people they identify as illegal aliens, put them in private prisons, deny them of habeas corpus and even medical care even in cases where the prisoner can pay for it. This is very disturbing to me. Human rights are the foundation of civil rights. Erosion of the human rights of illegal aliens will eventually lead to the erosion of the civil rights of citizens.

Similarly, look at Guantanomo. That's a place where the US has authority, yet no US law applies. I disagree with Rambone over the definition of the police state, but this is a good example of what a police state is: laws are ignored, altered, etc. to suit the arbitrary wishes of the policing authorities. We have to eliminate all these places of unjust incarceration. Really, these places worry me a lot more than SWAT no-knock warrants.

Da Bing

[Mokkie]

Just what we need more federal personal running around the state. Oh wait.

[phylodog]

Originally Posted by jeremy

Wanna go in 50/50 on the Business?!

Interested in selling them as a package with my patented tinfoil conspiracy theory reading glasses?