interesting article on supreme court and obama care

[strahd71]

saw this article

not sure if the guy is full of it or not

what say you folks?

Chief Justice Roberts Is A Genius « White House 2012

jake

 

[Magneto]

Intersting read.

 

[strahd71]

Intersting read.

yea i thought so to. like i said tho i dont know if its true.

seems like he could have just voted against it completely and been done with it

jake

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

So we're to appreciate a moral victory?

He didn't get the ginsberg's on that court to commit to anything of the sort. When the next thing comes along that seemingly violates the commerce clause or the good & plenty clause, or whatever, the left is united in their ideology and they'll concoct a reason to find it constitutional.

This was a blind sided loss, a sucker punch if you will. If roberts wanted to make a case for the commerce clause and states' rights, he could have done it by voting to over turn it too. Like every other "entitlement", this will never be simply repealed. For generations, they will work around the margins--adjusting this and tweaking that--but repeal will never happen. Even if Ron Paul, Gary Johnson Ronald Reagan, or George Washington were to miraculously become president.

 

[level.eleven]

Dicta legal definition of Dicta. Dicta synonyms by the Free Online Law Dictionary.

Opinions of a judge that do not embody the resolution or determination of the specific case before the court. Expressions in a court's opinion that go beyond the facts before the court and therefore are individual views of the author of the opinion and not binding in subsequent cases as legal precedent. The plural of dictum.

 

[hornadylnl]

So we're to appreciate a moral victory?

He didn't get the ginsberg's on that court to commit to anything of the sort. When the next thing comes along that seemingly violates the commerce clause or the good & plenty clause, or whatever, the left is united in their ideology and they'll concoct a reason to find it constitutional.

This was a blind sided loss, a sucker punch if you will. If roberts wanted to make a case for the commerce clause and states' rights, he could have done it by voting to over turn it too. Like every other "entitlement", this will never be simply repealed. For generations, they will work around the margins--adjusting this and tweaking that--but repeal will never happen. Even if Ron Paul, Gary Johnson Ronald Reagan, or George Washington were to miraculously become president.

You didn't think the republican spin doctors were going to remain silent did you?

 

[strahd71]

You didn't think the republican spin doctors were going to remain silent did you?

But so soon......

Jake

 

[hornadylnl]

But so soon......

Jake

I'm sure they had several excuses already prepared.

 

[strahd71]

I'm sure they had several excuses already prepared.

Im sure......... ugh

Jake

 

[Double T]

So now we can get in trouble for tax evasion for choosing something that shouldn't be mandatory.

Wonderful.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

You didn't think the republican spin doctors were going to remain silent did you?

Right.

In ballgame parlance: Instead of trying to salvage a bad call, we should be using this a clarion call to fire up the team.

 

[rambone]

Although he didn’t guarantee Romney a win, he certainly did more than his part and should be applauded.

And he did this without creating a civil war or having bricks thrown through his windshield. Oh, and he’ll be home in time for dinner.

Brilliant.

Vomit.

Yeah, Roberts is brilliant alright. Most wolves who wear sheep's clothing are pretty brilliant. Hip, hip, hooray for Justice Roberts. What a hero. He deserves a 1-finger salute.

 

[ray d]

The time is now train and prepare or pay up and be a slave.

 

[jedi]

Now I'm more confused then ever on what the Chief J really do.
At first I labeled him a traitor to the constitution. After reading this I'm not sure.
I'm still leaning to my 1st opinion of him. Seems to me (right now) that he is making sure history remembers his court as the one with the most profound rulings in US history from the Heller case to now this.

 

[hornadylnl]

If anything good is going to come of this it's republicans getting the wool removed from over their eyes.

 

[level.eleven]

Now I'm more confused then ever on what the Chief J really do.
At first I labeled him a traitor to the constitution. After reading this I'm not sure.
I'm still leaning to my 1st opinion of him. Seems to me (right now) that he is making sure history remembers his court as the one with the most profound rulings in US history from the Heller case to now this.

It is right wing spin. Don't fall for it. Everything is political, everything is spin. Even when you lose, you win. Well, they win. You, still lose.

 

[Bunnykid68]

I just posted in the big thread I thought Roberts was brilliant for pointing out that it is a tax and therefor out side of his jurisdiction. Damn, I am good sometimes

And this be one of them

 

[Citizen711]

Thanks for the link, Jake. That insight gives me a new perspective...and hope.

 

[hornadylnl]

Thanks for the link, Jake. That insight gives me a new perspective...and hope.

It is right wing spin. Don't fall for it. Everything is political, everything is spin. Even when you lose, you win. Well, they win. You, still lose.

Did you really think they wouldn't?

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I just posted in the big thread I thought Roberts was brilliant for pointing out that it is a tax and therefor out side of his jurisdiction. Damn, I am good sometimes

And this be one of them

Everybody knew this was a tax. I can't see how BHO could keep a straight face when he contended it wasn't.