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Old 02-21-2013   #1 (permalink)
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Is it really "us-vs-them?"
Some recent threads have brought the "us-vs-them" mentality to the surface again. I point out that this attitude is prevalent on LEO forums, some LEOs think this attitude is prevalent here.

The fact remains that the thin blue line exists--cops protect cops and if citizens express a distrust of cops we are accused of cop bashing. LEOs have a certain control and power that can make our lives less than pleasant.

Do you really think it is wise to trust law enforcement? I find it hard to make that argument.

Feb 8:
Trooper pleads guilty to federal charges of abuse, violence
Police lieutenant charged with domestic violence, violating a domestic-violence court order
Judge rules police intentionally erase audio in cover up

Feb 10:
Cop arrested for domestic violence
Cop (same agency) arrested for fleeing from police
Cop (same agency) arrested for domestic violence
Cops charged with multiple counts of conspiracy to steal drugs and money, town gets sued
Deputy arrested for grand theft
Cop fired, pleads guilty for unlawful arrest
Deputy charged with taking bribes

Feb 11:
Cop sentenced to 10 years in prison for protecting, helping underage prostitution ring
Deputy fired, faces two charges of sexual exploitation of a child
Cop charged with furnishing alcohol to minor
Cop arrested for relationship with underage girl
Cop pleads guilty to stalking and plotting to murder fellow cop
Cop found guilty of kidnapping, official misconduct

Feb 12:
Trooper charged with multiple rapes of different women

Feb 13:
Cop before grand jury on aggravated assault indictment
Cop indicted for continuous sexual abuse of a child
Police chief fired for sexual harassment
Cop arrested for domestic assault
Ten cops charged with corruption, taking payoffs from drug dealers

Feb 14:
Cop arrested for multiple felony theft and residential burglary charges
Cop fired for multiple DUIs
Cop arrested, goes to trial for drunk driving fatality
Cop arrested for menacing
Two cops arrested for illegally acquiring guns, two other cops arrested for theft, criminal trespass, burglary, conspiracy to commit a crime and violation of oath of office

Feb 15:
Police officer arrested for sexually assaulting a child repeatedly
Cop (different cop) pleads guilty to aggravated sexual assault of a child
Cops arrested for conspiracy, concealing stolen property, and possession of illegal firearms
Cop fired for criminal activity
Cop arrested for DUI
Cop arrested for breaking and entering, death threats
Cop arrested for assault with intent to murder, assault and battery with a dangerous weapon, domestic assault and battery, operating to endanger and leaving the scene of an accident with property damage
Cop pleads guilty to having sex with prostitutes while on duty
Deputy found guilty of sexually assaulting 9-year-old girl and her teen sister

Feb 16:
Cop arrested for felony theft of money, creating false documents
Cop arrested for DUI 3x over limit
Cop indicted for official misconduct, theft by deception, filing fraudulent tax returns and failure to pay state tax
Cop arrested, jailed for breaking and entering, aggravated battery, domestic violence, and malfeasance in office

Feb 17:
Cop arrested for DUI, multiple car crash
Cop arrested for DUI 3x over legal limit (different cop)
Deputy Police Commissioner charged with bribery, convicted of official misconduct, conspiracy

Feb 18:
Deputies suspended
Off-duty cop arrested for aggravated battery with a deadly weapon
Cop fired for drug trafficking, tampering with evidence, fleeing law enforcement, possession of drug paraphernalia, cocaine possession, making false statements, and reporting for duty under the influence
Deputy pleads 'no contest' to sexually assaulting women in traffic stops, additional charges included official misconduct, lewdness, unlawful detention and theft.
Cop convicted of assault

Feb 19:
NYPD Sergeant arrested for having child porn on his computer
Cop convicted of stealing brother’s identity, making fraudulent loans
Cop given probation for DUI with 0.236 BAC
Trooper pleads guilty to fatal DUI, homicide by motor vehicle
Police lieutenant arrested for domestic violence
Deputy and local cop charged with bribery for protecting drug dealers

Feb 20:
Deputies placed on leave for killing man with Down Syndrome in movie theater, death ruled a homicide, LEOs refuse to talk to investigators
Cop suspended after DUI
Cop fired after killing two people in cruiser crash
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**** just got real.... This thread is not going to end well.


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To answer your question... I don't feel like it is "us vs cops" or "us vs .gov". I feel like it should be "us vs ourselves". Our own fear seems to perpetuate, either naturally or from media projecting. Perpetuate to the point where WE (collectively) have empowered authority to take extreme measures over minuscule problems.

For some reason or another... humans world wide seem willing to exchange liberty for safety to the point of extreme diminishing returns. Returns so diminished that they are willing to give up a lot for next to nothing in return... so willing in fact, that the process of deferring to authority has become natural and thoughtless.

I do not blame authority... nor do I blame those who defer to it. What rattles my brain is that I can't see any solution to reversing this trend. Its hard enough to get a family member to 'Wake Up'... let alone a nation.
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It never ceases to amaze me that people tend to think that one's profession or job is indicative of how they will behave. They're just men..
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Most of it depends on your skin color or socioeconomic status. The police aren't against me. I am white and wealthy. They call me sir. Fast forward to a stop and frisk in Harlem. LE is an industry. Numbers need to be met just as widgets need to be produced. I can harvest moon rocks to make widgets, or I can drive down MLK.
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On the whole, I'll take a cop I don't know watching my 6 rather than you.

I guess you know where I stand.

Dumb thread.
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You eat quite a bit of popcorn. This is the second controversial, not actual controversy rather INGO contrived controversy, thread in which you decided to munch.

I like it. Nothing wrong with letting the cards fall.
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I havent seen one Officer put a us vs them thread on here. How many of these do we need?
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