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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Cass Sunstein!!!! voted 63-35!!!!! 9/9/09 WELL we are ****ed now.... Cass Sunstein - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia STOPSUNSTEIN.COM "We ought to ban hunting" - Cass Sunstein, in a 2007 speech at Harvard University "[A]lmost all gun control legislation is constitutionally fine. And if the Court is right, then fundamentalism does not justify the view that the Second Amendment protects an individual right to bear arms. " - Cass Sunstein, writing in his book, "Radicals in Robes" "Animals should be permitted to bring suit, with human beings as their representatives …" - 2004 book Animal Rights: Current Debates and New Directions "[Humans’] willingness to subject animals to unjustified suffering will be seen … as a form of unconscionable barbarity… morally akin to slavery and the mass extermination of human beings." - Cass Sunstein, in a 2007 speech at Harvard University "[T]here should be extensive regulation of the use of animals in entertainment, in scientific experiments, and in agriculture." - Cass Sunstein, “The Rights of Animals: A Very Short Primer,” August 2002. "A system of limitless individual choices, with respect to communications, is not necessarily in the interest of citizenship and self-government." -Cass Sunstein, arguing for a Fairness Doctrine for the Internet in his book, Republic.com 2.0 (page 137). First Amendment In his book Democracy and the Problem of Free Speech Sunstein says there is a need to reformulate First Amendment law. He thinks that the current formulation, based on Justice Holmes' conception of free speech as a marketplace “disserves the aspirations of those who wrote America’s founding document.”[12] The purpose of this reformulation would be to “reinvigorate processes of democratic deliberation, by ensuring greater attention to public issues and greater diversity of views.”[13] He is concerned by the present “situation in which like-minded people speak or listen mostly to one another,”[14] and thinks that in “light of astonishing economic and technological changes, we must doubt whether, as interpreted, the constitutional guarantee of free speech is adequately serving democratic goals.”[15] He proposes a “New Deal for speech [that] would draw on Justice Brandeis' insistence on the role of free speech in promoting political deliberation and citizenship.”[13] Animal rights Sunstein has also written often in favor of animal rights. “Every reasonable person believes in animal rights,” he says.[16] He also says that human “willingness to subject animals to unjustified suffering will be seen … as a form of unconscionable barbarity… morally akin to slavery and the mass extermination of human beings,”[17] and that we might "conclude that certain practices cannot be defended and should not be allowed to continue, if, in practice, mere regulation will inevitably be insufficient—and if, in practice, mere regulation will ensure that the level of animal suffering will remain very high."[16] Specifically he thinks that, “we ought to ban hunting.”[18] He also thinks that “we could even grant animals a right to bring suit”[19] and that it is possible that “that before long, Congress will grant standing to animals to protect their own rights and interests.”[20] This all stems from his claim that "animals, species as such, and perhaps even natural objects warrant respect for their own sake, and quite apart from their interactions with human beings."[21] Democrats push Cass Sunstein nomination - Alex Isenstadt - POLITICO.com In a 63-35 vote Wednesday evening, the Senate voted to end the debate on Sunstein’s nomination, moving Sunstein one step closer to a full vote in the Senate. Democrats succeeded Wednesday in pushing forward the nomination of Cass Sunstein, the controversial Harvard University law professor who has been tapped by President Obama to head the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs. In a 63-35 vote Wednesday evening, the Senate voted to end the debate on Sunstein’s nomination, moving Sunstein one step closer to a full vote in the Senate. Sunstein has been tapped for one of the more wonky jobs in the White House – reviewing the effectiveness of federal regulations. But his nomination has caught fire with conservatives, led by Fox News host Glenn Beck, who have highlighted some of his more liberal positions on animal rights and end of life care. Sunstein has been described by Republicans as one of the many Obama “czars,” but because he requires Senate confirmation, he doesn’t really fit the mold of a “czar” who wield enormous powers with little oversight. Conservatives are particularly incensed over statements Sunstein has made advocating for greater regulation of hunting rights. While Republicans will have little ability to stop Sunstein’s nomination, conservatives are feeling energized after their successful push for the resignation of White House green jobs adviser Van Jones, who stepped down from his post this weekend after it was revealed that he had dabbled with 9/11 conspiracy groups and had made inflammatory statements about Republicans. The heated debate over Sunstein began on the Senate floor just hours before President Obama sets foot in the Capitol to deliver a nationally televised address on health care to Congress. On his Twitter account Tuesday, Beck blasted Democrats for “rushing” Sunstein’s vote through the Senate. “Dems likely to vote on Sunstein's nomination TOMORROW; they are afraid of WatchDogs; every day increases their risk of losing this vote,” Beck wrote. from glenn beck Why Obama's Speech Doesn't Matter - Glenn Beck - FOXNews.com Everyone is talking about health care today and the president's speech tonight. I don't even need to watch the speech. Why? Because here's The One Thing: While everyone else is talking about the health care bill and the games of health care reform, let me sum up the speech this way: It doesn't matter. Wednesday's health care speech doesn't matter because this administration is going off a blueprint they haven't revealed yet. And while we don't know what their grand plan is, it feels more and more like a plan designed by the Teamsters, the seemingly criminal elements that run ACORN or Hugo Chavez's regime. And until we know where the people in Washington stand on the Constitution, nothing should pass. The tools to build their ultimate new America will be buried in these bills — tools that you won't even see because you don't know what tools they need. So instead of talking about health care, let me tell you something that will absolutely change your life. I have said to you over and over again: Never watch what they are doing; watch the other hand. As everyone was watching Van Jones, we learned the vote to confirm Cass Sunstein as regulatory "czar" is coming down on Wednesday. Sunstein is the author of "Animal Rights: Current Debates and New Directions," in which he wrote: "Animals should be permitted to bring suit, with human beings as their representatives…." Yes, your dog should have an attorney. Sunstein also had this to say about the Second Amendment: (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CASS SUNSTEIN: "My coming view is that the individual right to bear arms reflects the success of an extremely aggressive and resourceful social movement and has much less to do with good standard legal arguments than [it] appears." (END VIDEO CLIP) Here is what the regulatory "czar" does: He regulates laws — past, present and future. He tweaks them. What could that mean to you? Well, consider that Sunstein is a man who doesn't believe we should be eating meat; a man who believes that animals should be provided attorney's in courts of law; a man that believes that everyone must be an organ donor; a man who believes that maybe you shouldn't be able to remove rats from your home, if it causes them any pain. (I mean, I was as fond of Michael Jackson's song "Ben" as the next 8-year-old kid, but do you really want a police officer telling Ben, who's shown up in your home, "You have the right to be here. If they try to remove you from the home, you have the right to an attorney. If you cannot afford an attorney, Ben, one will be provided for you"?) Cass Sunstein doesn't have to pass a law to ban meat, he just works with the environmental agencies to make sure feed is tougher to obtain, grazing lands are more protected and it's much more difficult to ship. So ranchers can't graze their cattle. When environmentalists saved the smelt, all they did was reduce water going to those grazing lands and suddenly, farmers were going out of business. Sunstein can make it harder to use pesticides, change regulations on grains — which makes them more expensive and your steak goes from $10 to $25. So don't expect laws banning meat, just tweaks to the regulations that make it more expensive — "nudging" you to stop eating meat. How will Sunstein "nudge" you on guns or on the Internet or free speech? You won't say bad things about the president or global warming because that would be wildly irresponsible — we can't have flat-Earthers running around or people who disagree too much with the president. People in Washington don't get it, you know it. For the first time in my life, I have seen miracles happen. This country is actually being led, in part, by you. We the people are leading the blind in Washington. But some will continue to play politics and call you stupid. They will tell you that Cass Sunstein is a good guy, just an academic. But there are a lot of academics that have done a lot of damage and are responsible for a lot of people perishing. A lot of these attacks on me claim that I'm just screaming "communist!" That's not what I'm alleging in the case of Sunstein. He's not a communist or a Marxist. He's not crazy — well, besides the rat thing. He's not a revolutionary — he hasn't started a STORM for kids group. He's a serious intellectual. So why is Glenn Beck going after him? Because I'm one person who has been consistent. I'm against gigantic government. I believe that people make the best decisions. I don't need to be "nudged." I don't need the National Endowment for the Arts to make propaganda to push an agenda. I don't need thugs coming to my office or approaching me on the street to nudge me. I can make the decisions for my own life. And if the government doesn't like it, they can get the heck off my land. A battle is being waged. You may be losing a lot of personal sovereignty today. Watch the price of energy. Watch the price of the food. You will not be "nudged;" you will be shoved. But the highest price you'll pay isn't the extra pennies on a soda tax. It will be in the loss of your personal freedom. This Saturday is 9/12 — the day I think should be a National Day of Service. There are going to be 9/12 events across the country. Go to D.C. Go to your town squares. Get your neighbors to go to your home, local bar, restaurant. Take a stand. Enough is enough. 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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | WHAT HAPPENED we were ****** (see your bad word & hope you don't get slapped by the MODS for it since we are no PG rated only) since I6BO was crowned.. I mean took office. Just means I have to do a lot more praying.
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