Why Don't You Like Ron Paul?

[truegrit]

like I said I'm keeping an eye on him I supported Fred Thompson until push came to shove last time

[4sarge]

Originally Posted by rambone

I will say this. If conservatives/libertarians/republicans/right-wingers don't unite in 2012, we will have Obama till 2016.

2016 or For Life - I'm just not for sure, who's life at the moment

[DarkLight]

Originally Posted by groovatron

Like SavageEagle states, then you wouldn't vote for anybody. Let's see, what exaclty is a cult? According to Webster, it is : great devotion to a person, idea, object, movement, or work ......OMG....we are all in a 2A cult!! Just realized this......As far as not defending our country, that's just ridiculous. In no way has Ron Paul ever stated that he would eliminate our countries defenses. He just wants to trim all of the bureaucratical fat. This includes militarily....(ie. private oversees security contracts) And the arguement that he doesn't have a chance so you are wasting a vote is just plain ignorance. With that logic, change and political revolution will never occur and we will just continue to teeter-totter, passing the buck while the bureaucrats roll around in our indecision like a pig in s**t! It seems like all the main right-wing pushers (limbaugh, hannity, savage, levin) spend all there time stirring up controversey and complaining rather than supporting real solutions to real problems. Why don't they come out and support Ron Paul?.....Because they make way more money under the current system.....and guess what.?....this is there true motivation!

I agree with you 100%! It's the same as with the big news stations; FOX, MSNBC, CNN it doesn't matter what their 'affiliation' is, they know that as long as the world sucks, they get more money for reporting on it.

I think Ron Paul is our once in a lifetime chance of returning this Nation to its rightful place. And anyone that states that a vote for him is a vote for the other side is only fueling the problem.

The way I see things, the republican party and the democratic party are just 2 sides of the same coin..and guess what, its a peso and it's its worth !!

Ron Paul may run as a Rep, but I'll always view him as a Constitutionalists and better than any of the competition.

My only concern is putting a good set of Senators and Congressmen in with him so that he can make the necessary changes to fix this nation.

[SavageEagle]

Originally Posted by DarkLight

My only concern is putting a good set of Senators and Congressmen in with him so that he can make the necessary changes to fix this nation.

There in lies the problem. It's not the President that makes the laws and policies. It's Congress. Everyone worries so much about the President and the Laws he can pass, when in effect, the President only has the power of veto and control over foriegn policy and the military.

[groovatron]

Originally Posted by DarkLight

I agree with you 100%! It's the same as with the big news stations; FOX, MSNBC, CNN it doesn't matter what their 'affiliation' is, they know that as long as the world sucks, they get more money for reporting on it.

I think Ron Paul is our once in a lifetime chance of returning this Nation to its rightful place. And anyone that states that a vote for him is a vote for the other side is only fueling the problem.

The way I see things, the republican party and the democratic party are just 2 sides of the same coin..and guess what, its a peso and it's its worth !!

Ron Paul may run as a Rep, but I'll always view him as a Constitutionalists and better than any of the competition.

My only concern is putting a good set of Senators and Congressmen in with him so that he can make the necessary changes to fix this nation.

Thanks for my first +1 DarkLight! As frustrating as this issue is, finding people who really see the truth through the smoke is as good as gold!

[groovatron]

Originally Posted by SavageEagle

There in lies the problem. It's not the President that makes the laws and policies. It's Congress. Everyone worries so much about the President and the Laws he can pass, when in effect, the President only has the power of veto and control over foriegn policy and the military.

very true....being involved from your town on up to the state is key in promoting change.

[ejscott]

ill give you a groovatron. now back to you SE

[groovatron]

Originally Posted by ejscott

ill give you a groovatron. now back to you SE

Thanks my friend!

[photoshooter]

The one main stumbling block to the Paul for President run as a Repub, is that the candidate who wins the nomination, heads the party.

The Party doesn't support Paul, because he doesn't cave to the big money donors. So, he won't easily get the nomination due to the party steering money and image enhancement to others that will support the party.

We're seeing this in a micro version via the Behney campaign. He's not a party guy. They can't control him if he does get elected. They want the seat filled with an R... but they want the seat filled an Obedient R.

So, there will always be someone in the way of getting a candidate into the top spot in the R party.

Unless...

[mettle]

Originally Posted by DarkLight

The way I see things, the republican party and the democratic party are just 2 sides of the same coin..and guess what, its a peso and it's its worth !!

Ron Paul may run as a Rep, but I'll always view him as a Constitutionalists and better than any of the competition.

These are the only two sentences worth reading in this whole regurgitation-subject thread.

He's the best choice we have, with the best backing and most momentum right now...