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| Master Join Date: May 2009
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| I read Balko's take this morning as well. I think the lieing coming out the Police Department is very disturbing and not just the problem of a few bad apples. There was an 8 day gap between the informants tip and the home invasion. When concerned citizens inquired as to what went down they were told it was a training excercise and that no shots were fired. When pushed for a copy of the tapes, they deleted the audio and the incriminating portions of the video. These types of scenarios are playing way to frequently. |
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| Grandmaster Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Hamilton County
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| Radley Balko has a couple of updates related to this travesty. One from a military perspective that I particularly liked and one from someone that attended a Columbia, MO civilian oversight meeting. Both good reads on a subject that is not going away anytime soon. More Militarised Than The Military Quote:
Report From the Meeting of Columbia’s Police Civilian Review Board Quote:
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| Grandmaster Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Hamilton County
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| Well, as expected the Columbia PD has completed their "investigation" and found that their enforcers acted in accordance with PD policy and are "innocent" of any wrong doing. Despite the video footage showing otherwise. This is par for the course in the incidents, as we have seen all too often. via The Columbia Tribune Quote:
One has to wonder. If they acted appropriately, then why would changes need to be made in the way they act in the future?
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| I didn't expect an outcome that was different.
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| Well, I would say they didn't violate any policies that were in place. With the number of dog shootings going through the roof the past several years, you have to believe that it has become standard operating procedure for some agencies to immediately dispatch any animals in the residence (just as it is in Iraq) upon entering. Here are a couple more puppycides from this weekend. From the comments: Readers respond to dog-shooting by Saginaw Township police | - MLive.com Daily Herald | Family upset after dog killed by Des Plaines officer Maybe I am wrong about this, but growing up I never heard of so many dogs being shot. Perhaps it is because I didn't have cable news or the internet. But, it seems like enforcers used to be able to do their job without so much collateral damage. It must also be standard operating procedure to ignore the fact that childeren are in a home that is set for invasion. The enforcers knew (after getting caugth in a lie) that a child was present. So a conclusion can be drawn that children present isn't enough to halt an invasion. So yeah, according to thier policies they didn't break any rules. |
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| If you shoot a dog, two things happen. First there's a big boom. Second, unless you kill the dog straight away, it wails like nothing you've ever heard. And it's loud. Real loud. Most likely both things happen simultaneously. So as I thought about the lab shot in the first story you posted, coupled with the theories above, I came to a puzzling conclusion. Shooting a dog outside gives up your tactical advantage of suprise. It alerts someone not only to the fact that you are there, but gives them an idea where you are. If you know anything about tactics why would you give away your position? If you don't understand tactics what are you doing there? I had two GSDs that wouldn't bark. Guard dogs can and are often trained not to bark. The cop said he rattled the fence and nothing happened. What would he have done if the dog had barked? Called off the op? Not entered the property? Yeah whatever. What if rather than 1 10 year old lab he encountered 5 highly trained rotts? If these guys are really so undertrained that they think that rattling the fence qualifies as solid recon what are they doing out there? How about this. Have animal control knock on the neighbor's house behind them. Show them a badge, tell them about complaints about a barking dog. Ask which neighbors have a dog, what kind, and when / how often are they outside. Oh yeah, it's not quite as much fun as shooting something. Seriously! Quote:
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| Subjects of Missouri Drug Raid That Went Viral Have Their Civil Suit Dismissed
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