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Old 12-14-2008   #11 (permalink)
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I have a PF9, it has been flawless in operation with over 1000rds thru it. However, I did do the "fluff-n-buff" procedure that is posted on the Kel-tec forum before I fired it the first time.

I also just finished the "fluff-n-buff" procedure on rhino's PF9, it will now feed HPs more reliably now.

They are a decent little gun, but I have since changed my mind and have gone to a J-frame smith for a deep concealment gun and for a BUG.
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I was debating between the PF9, P11, Karh, and a few others for my personal carry piece.

I'm not in Law Enforcement, and only carry one handgun for self defense (legally of course with my lifetime permit ), so I probably had different criteria. I went with a Taurus PT111. Still pretty small, but big enough that my larger hands fit it a bit better, which made me feel like I'd have a bit more control. The Kel-Tecs and Khar seemed just a bit too small for me personally.

I did a bit of research when I was looking, and talked quite a bit to the owner of the shop that I ended up buying from. He said that all of the sub compact Kel-Tecs are pretty popular as back up weapons for Officers in the area. There is a bit less refinement than the slightly larger and more expensive pistols, but they are small, lightweight, and go bang when they need to. There was also the mention about the trigger pull being long, and pretty heavy.

They eventually convinced me that the Taurus was better for my needs, but it was about $100 more too.
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I believe I'd stay with a LW J frame S&W. But I've sworn off auto's for self defense.
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IMHO - Save up and buy a Kahr cw9. Don't make the mistake of buying a cheap gun, regretting it, selling it for less, and eventually buying a quality gun a year later. In the end, you'll spend less money and be much happier. Voice of experience!
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Had a PF-9. It was a good gun, I liked it but I thought it was kind of big to carry in pocket. After getting my LCP I decided I liked it better for a BUG so I sold my PF-9.
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I sound like a broken record today, but I really like my P3AT. Cheap and it works.
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Here is my impression after shooting mine:

1. It's surprisingly easy to shoot and control. I was expecting the kind of discomfort you get from an airweight j-frame, but it's nothing like that. It's actually pleasurable to shoot.

2. It's surprisingly accurate. I can hit very easily with either hand or both at 7 yards, even though the long trigger pull is foreign to me.

3. My only complaint was that mine functioned fine with FMJ, but choked with JHPs. Thanks to my friend Craig, it now works with carry ammo, so all is well in Denmark.

4. It feels much better in my pocket than a j-frame because it's flatter.

Let me add this about Kahr pistols. I have fired exactly one of them (2-3 magazine fulls), the larger polymer framed version. I could barely hit an IPSC target shooting it at 10 yards. I'm not talking bad groups, I'm talking I couldn't keep a full magazine on the paper. It had more felt recoil than the cheap, tiny Kel-Tec PF9 too. I don't know whether my problem was the crappy Kahr trigger or something else, but it justs didn't work for me. I suppose I could have spent a few hours with it instead of a few magazines, to improve, but why bother?

The Kel-Tec is great for when you can't carry a real gun or as a second, third, or fourth carry gun to complement anything else you carry.
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Here is my impression after shooting mine:

1. It's surprisingly easy to shoot and control. I was expecting the kind of discomfort you get from an airweight j-frame, but it's nothing like that. It's actually pleasurable to shoot.

2. It's surprisingly accurate. I can hit very easily with either hand or both at 7 yards, even though the long trigger pull is foreign to me.

3. My only complaint was that mine functioned fine with FMJ, but choked with JHPs. Thanks to my friend Craig, it now works with carry ammo, so all is well in Denmark.

4. It feels much better in my pocket than a j-frame because it's flatter.

Let me add this about Kahr pistols. I have fired exactly one of them (2-3 magazine fulls), the larger polymer framed version. I could barely hit an IPSC target shooting it at 10 yards. I'm not talking bad groups, I'm talking I couldn't keep a full magazine on the paper. It had more felt recoil than the cheap, tiny Kel-Tec PF9 too. I don't know whether my problem was the crappy Kahr trigger or something else, but it justs didn't work for me. I suppose I could have spent a few hours with it instead of a few magazines, to improve, but why bother?

The Kel-Tec is great for when you can't carry a real gun or as a second, third, or fourth carry gun to complement anything else you carry.

You need to come over and shoot my Kahr PM40, it is more accurate than my Glocks are (they shoot nice) and the recoil seems less than my Glock 33 too.
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