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gglass · 01-24-2009

The 9mm round is a fantastic man stopper. The only improvement may be in your SD ammo choice. If you do some research on the latest SD ammunition, you will find the Federal HST at the top today. Even though Federal charges more for the Hydra-Shok line of ammunition, it is the HST line that gets all the attention. You better hurry if you want some, LE agencies are buying it up fast and Federal is adjusting their sales policies to make it harder for civilians to get... They will sell you Hydra-Shoks all day long though.

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bowtech29 · 01-25-2009

+ 1 for the GLOCK 21SF love the 13+1 of the almighty .45 acp

FordMan08 · 01-25-2009

I like the big bulky glock 22 with 15 rounds of heavy ammo but then again...a nine is fine.

SaltyPup11b · 01-24-2009

Wanted to thank you all for the posts and i appreciate your input.

Dogman · 01-25-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by krs49@comcast.net

the best is a 40 or 45 ACP.

Some think so, some think not.

cosermann · 01-25-2009

The 9 mm is fine if it's loaded with quality ammo. One thing about the 9 mm, however, is that it's stopping power is more sensitive to the load than some of the larger calibers. And, there are a lot of not very effective loads out there for the 9mm.

So, if you want to carry a 9, and I do, you need to be choosy about what you load it with. I think there are currently better choices than the Hydra Shoks in 9mm. The Hydra Shok is an older design, and is known for failing to expand (or expanding unreliably) if the hollow point gets plugged up. Based on the tests I've seen, some loads to try include the Gold Dots, Golden Sabers, HST's, DPX's, and Rangers - all in 124 to 147 grain. The newer bullet designs expand more reliably (even at lower velocities) and the heavier bullets penetrate better.

Snake Eater · 01-26-2009

it's not the CALBER or GUN it's how good you are WITH IT.

01-24-2009	#1 (permalink)
gglass Marksman Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Michiana Posts: 547	The 9mm round is a fantastic man stopper. The only improvement may be in your SD ammo choice. If you do some research on the latest SD ammunition, you will find the Federal HST at the top today. Even though Federal charges more for the Hydra-Shok line of ammunition, it is the HST line that gets all the attention. You better hurry if you want some, LE agencies are buying it up fast and Federal is adjusting their sales policies to make it harder for civilians to get... They will sell you Hydra-Shoks all day long though. Yummy Expansion! __________________ "Let me guess... This isn't about the alcohol or tobacco."

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cosermann Expert Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,234	The 9 mm is fine if it's loaded with quality ammo. One thing about the 9 mm, however, is that it's stopping power is more sensitive to the load than some of the larger calibers. And, there are a lot of not very effective loads out there for the 9mm. So, if you want to carry a 9, and I do, you need to be choosy about what you load it with. I think there are currently better choices than the Hydra Shoks in 9mm. The Hydra Shok is an older design, and is known for failing to expand (or expanding unreliably) if the hollow point gets plugged up. Based on the tests I've seen, some loads to try include the Gold Dots, Golden Sabers, HST's, DPX's, and Rangers - all in 124 to 147 grain. The newer bullet designs expand more reliably (even at lower velocities) and the heavier bullets penetrate better.

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