An average persons advice to new handgun shooters

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  • ChalupaCabras

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    I've been reflecting often of late on my experiences buying, selling, shooting, and carrying handgun over the last several years. I turned 30 a few months back, and realized I've maintained a carry permit and collection of handguns since I came of age at 18, so this is year 12 winding down. I've always been a slow learner but I think I can say with a bit of confidence now that I'm finally starting to realize what works and what doesn't work in the real world, the realities of living and training with firearms, forming my own personal preferences and reasoning behind them.

    I don't consider myself an expert or professional in the realm of handguns; not in any real sense of the word. I'm not a tacticool operator swat ninja, nor am I a tier 1 death dealer of any flavor. My formal training consists of NRA basic and advanced handgun courses that I took in my late teens or early 20's, DOC pistol training on the Glock as a State prison guard in my mid 20s, and more recently pistol training on the M9 for the National Guard. I suppose that is in reality significantly more training than the average Joe who owns a handgun, but in my opinion that is only just enough to be competent, and I will be seeking more training as time and funds allow.

    Part of that time & funding loop was how long it took me to get into reloading. I resisted it for several years, despite never having enough money to practice shooting with the frequency I wanted. Eventually my father purchased a Lee 3 stage progressive press kit, pre-set for 45acp. several years later, it is still one of the most useful and overall worth-while piece of firearms related equipment I own. Even purchasing all components at local shop prices, my cost per box of 45acp is half of what it costs to buy commercial ammo. These entry level reloading kits are not expensive in any way. The concept of reloading is a good example of what I would usually do at the time, and what I did for many years - purchase a new gun instead of buying the things I needed to support the weapon I already owned. I was that guy with a dozen handguns in 4 different calibers, and 300 total rounds of ammunition. Maybe I had one or two extra magazines for one or two of those, but certainly not for every weapon.

    Looking back, the cause of a lot of this was gun magazines and internet gun forums. I read them religiously. All of them. For nearly 10 years I was on virtually every internet gun forum known to man, including many of the smaller less well known (under a different user name), and I checked them all every day - multiple times per day in the case of the larger more well known names. I can clearly say that this was the source of HUGE amounts of misinformation that I later had to un-learn. I won't say what my old handle was, because I'm honestly ashamed of a lot of the nonsense things I used to say - Example: I once told someone never to buy brand X pistol (that I had never owned or fired) because they had plastic guide rods, and I felt that was not a reliable design... Despite the fact that I had no trigger time with the weapon and very little trigger time at all in general, I still felt like I needed to chime in and parrot stupid silly crap that I had heard other internet forumites spout; they had high post counts, so they MUST know what they are talking about right? Wrong young shooter, wrong - what I should have been doing was working an hour or two overtime so I could have afforded to shoot a couple boxes of ammo that weekend and improve as a shooter... Or simply doing some dg-gone pushup or gone for a jog to be in a bit better shape and maybe actually survive a gun fight. If you could track my forum activity now, you would see I only log on to post a for sale add, or take 5 - 10 minutes to respond to 1 or 2 threads, and that I only do that sporadically with periods of weeks of months between short bursts of activity... This is not because I'm not active in the world of firearms - it's actually the opposite; I'm out practicing, or spending my time DOING a firearms related hobby instead of talking about it to strangers on the internet. My advice to the new or younger shooter is to do the same.

    The last thing I want to touch on in equipment. I spent a good while before posting this trying to think of all the handguns I've bought / sold / traded over the last dozen years and I honestly can't remember them all. This is a list of the pistols and revolvers that I can REMEMBER personally owning (not to include weapons of several shooter family members, my friends who also tend to be shooters, or any rental pistols I have shot over the years):

    Pistols
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    CZ 50
    CZ 52
    CZ 75 'Semi-Compact' (My first pistol)
    Walther P-22 (Black)
    Walther P-22 (Green w/ Veridian green laser)
    Walther P1 (Early P38 marked)
    Walther P99 AS
    Glock 17 (Gen3)
    Glock 30 (Gen3)
    Springfield G.I. 45 (Stainless)
    Ruger P345
    Ruger MKIII
    Ruger 22/45 (Early model, bull barrel)
    Ruger LCP
    Hi-Point C9
    Hi-Point 45 (Early heel catch model)
    Beretta 9000 .40
    Beretta 8040 .40
    Sig Sauer P232
    Sig Sauer P6
    FN FiveSeven
    FN FNS-9 (Long slide)
    S&W 4506
    S&W M&P Shield 9
    STI GP6 (Performance tuned Grand Power K100)
    KelTec P32
    Baikal Makarov (Russian .380 commercial)

    Revolvers
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    Taurus 941
    S&W 36 (2" steel frame, blued)
    S&W 19 (6" BBL)
    S&W 629 (6" 1/2 lug BBL)
    S&W 25 'Classic' (6" 1/2 lug)
    Cold 'Commando' (2"BBL 'D' frame 38 special)

    27 pistols and 6 revolvers is what my rusty and often fallible memory can recollect owning. I am confident that is not a complete list, as I made a hobby for a time of trading off practically new pistols, at a loss, for store credit based on junk I read on the internet, or what new gun was coming out next week. By my very conservative estimate the items on that partial lists come to about $13,000 in handguns at current real market prices (good condition used examples for the items no longer made). This does not include the rifles or shotguns that got caught up in the same scheme.

    The point of that example is to show how I bounced around from one cartridge to the next, from one platform to the next, and from one type of trigger/safety mechanism to the next. It all added up to a lot time and money that I won't say was wasted (shooting anything is just too much fun) but I will say did not end up going anywhere in the long run. I think I'm just one of those hard headed people who has to try something multiple times to decide I do or don't like It. If I had gotten my act in gear and settled on what worked earlier on, I could have spend a lot more time and ammunition practicing with a uniform type of weapon and actually progressing as a shooter, instead of just being OK with anything and everything.

    So If I could do it over, what would I have done different, and what can the new shooter do to get on track sooner?

    You will hear a lot of people tell new shooters to go to a range with rentals and shoot different types and see what they like before they buy. This is good advice, but nobody ever tells you what to be looking for: Don't just look for size and weight. Those are important, but I would add to shoot the big 3 types of trigger / safety mechanisms and decide that first - you have single action with a manual safety, double action with a decocker safety, and DAO no safety. There is always some weird gun that defies categorization, but those are what 95% of pistols fall into. Choose which of those you like first, because you can get practically any major brand handgun line in multiple sizes and calibers these days.

    The next bit of advice usually given to newbies is deciding on weapon size and caliber. The order you do that in really doesn't matter. A lot of people will tell you to go with a middle of the road size gun (Glock 19 size) and there is a lot of practical truth in that I resisted for a lot of years out of desire to be different and do my own thing. My advice is to do practical FIRST, and then build up a collection of range toys and/or curios if you think that would appeal to you. Caliber really doesn't matter, as long as its not something whacky. Pick one of the main 3 (9mm, 40, 45) for your first gun (as well as your second and third for that matter). Don't do what I did, and get stuck with a collection of nearly all odd ball firarms that you either can't afford ammo for or can find spare mags for. Buy SEVERAL purely practical weapons first IF you choose to go the route of owning multiple guns. I spent a lot of time swinging back and forth from extremes in the spectrum, and chasing whiz-bang new cartridges. Don't do that if you want to actually shoot.

    10 years ago, if I had known what I know now, I would have let the other stuff pass by and purchased Glocks - a 19, a 23, and a 35. I would have shot the crap out of the 19 as a training analogue for the 23 which I would have carried and never looked back. The 35 would have mounted a basic light only (no silly laser) and pulled Sisyphean duty as a night stand gun forever more. The other $12,000+ dollars could have been spent on a crate of mags, pallets of ammunition, spare parts, and reloading supplies to keep them all running until my grand children are grey.

    Today there are a lot more really good options for pistols, but I would essentially go the same route: I would pick a brand and model that offered a compact version of a reliable service pistol, buy both of them, and stock mags and ammo. I would almost certainly go with the middle of the road cartridge (40) and mount a light on the full sized pistol to use as a house gun. I would probably pick a model that had no manual safety, because I've found through much trial and error that I need things to be as simple as possible.

    Quick take away from this rant for the new shooters are: Buy practical mainstream firearms early on, get training early on, start hand loading ASAP, and spend extra money on more bullets, not more guns.

    Sorry for the rant, had to get it out, and I hope it helps someone.
     

    CraigAPS

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    As a new gun owner, I appreciate the advice. I keep fighting myself on the "I WANT another gun" and "I NEED ammo and training." For the most part, ammo has won out. Still waiting for a training class that works with my training needs, my schedule, and my bank account. Thank you for a wonderful post with the breadth of your hard-learned lessons!
     

    throttletony

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    great post, and I agree with your overall ideas.
    I'll add:

    For anyone with 3+ handguns - at least one in a common centerfire caliber, one (or more) should be a revolver, and one should be a .22 - not all mutually exclusive
    For anyone with 4+ rifles/long guns - should own a .22, a centrerfire cartridge (I prefer AR or similar), and a shotgun in 12 ga. or 20 ga.
     

    looney2ns

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    Great post OP. I would add, get out and do IDPA or USPSA matches. It will teach you really quick what works for you and what doesn't. Plus it puts you under some stress while shooting.
     

    russc2542

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    As someone who's been into guns a whopping year and already need two hands to count firearms, I wholeheartedly support the OP's message.

    1. Try different stuff (Rent/borrow)
    2. buy boring, mainstream, common, well supported gun (Glock for the OP but there are many others that are just as good or better) based on results from previous step.
    3. spare mags, lots of ammo, training, etc
    4. better job/more OT, etc
    THEN
    5. multiple guns/calibers
     

    451_Detonics

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    I would add shop used guns rather than new, most people don't shoot a gun enough to put any wear on them so if there are not obvious signs of abuse you will likely be ok, especially if you buy from a brick and mortar store that warranties their used guns. Minimum 10 magazine for any semi auto (handgun or rifle) and consider the magazine cost when picking out the firearm. (you do not want to know what I ended up paying for 10 Styer GB mags for example)
     

    CraigAPS

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    I would add shop used guns rather than new, most people don't shoot a gun enough to put any wear on them so if there are not obvious signs of abuse you will likely be ok, especially if you buy from a brick and mortar store that warranties their used guns. Minimum 10 magazine for any semi auto (handgun or rifle) and consider the magazine cost when picking out the firearm. (you do not want to know what I ended up paying for 10 Styer GB mags for example)

    Why 10 magazines? That is what you meant, right? Have at least 10 magazines? Or did you mean at least 10 round magazines?
     

    451_Detonics

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    Why 10 magazines? That is what you meant, right? Have at least 10 magazines? Or did you mean at least 10 round magazines?

    I meant have 10 magazines. Why? Magazines do get lost or damaged and there have been times in our history that magazines have been made unavailable by our own government. Also, if you ever want to shoot competition more magazines is always a good thing. And if you firearm is discontinued in the future magazines may become impossible to find or extremely expensive. I shoot a HK P7M8 for example and today a single stack mag is 70 to 80 bucks when you can find one. Last, having at least 10 mags you can load at home in your leisure can make the trip to the range much more relaxed.
     

    YoungMilsurpGuy

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    Solid post.

    In my 4 years of owning and shooting handguns I have petty come around to the same conclusions. A few years ago I had alot of interesting stuff (a czarist mosin, a styer m95, and I have owned Tokarevs, East German Makarovs, a yugo m48, a cz-82, and a Star super model B) but in the last year I have consolidated my collection and just shot, and shot, and shot.

    When I went to purdue last fall I sold my mauser and got a truckload of .22 LR and got some apature sights for my 10/22 and just committed every week for two hours shooting 3 postion smallbore at 1.5 inch targets at 20 yards and I really learned how to shoot a rifle. (offhand shooting is something everyone says they can do but is a ***** to do really well). And I also committed to learning the shotgun and took my pawnshop mossberg 500 and shoot two rounds of trap and skeet a month.

    Now the only handgun I own and shoot is a Isreali surplus hi power copy and I am going through the process of getting my stance and trigger pull down cold and I am going to shoot my first USPSA match this Sunday
     

    wildcatze

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    Good post and advice. I'm going thru an itch to get a new handgun and always tell myself I should go, rent at a range, and then decide but I've caught myself in several stores lately and get darn close to doing paperwork for something that looks cool and feels ok in my hand without testing it. I've talked myself down because I bought a Sig P290RS a couple years back just to have a Sig and I can't stand shooting it because I can't get a comfortable grip on it. Definitely need to learn to not get so caught up in the moment and heed your advice.
     

    Pinger5560

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    Great post, reminds me of all the pistol I have had, but most of mine I purchased I really did get to shoot before from other members at my range. I just turned 40 myself & once again purchased a Walther PPQ & selling my Canik TP9SA.
     

    85Cosmo

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    I have had a lot of fun buying and selling guns I wish I had owed and fired years ago. The trick is to settle on a few favorites or you will continue to want everything you see!
     
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