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    Difference between Beretta 92-F & 92-FS ? ?

    Have heard many stories thru the years about the change from the 92F to the 92FS, but not exactly sure what all is true.

    Recently, I looked into trading my 92F ( bought new late 1980's ) in toward something else. I was told by the dealer that it was the inferior model and he personally wouldn't shoot it ! Now, I do believe the newer FS models do have some kind of safety feature retaining the slide in case of a catastrophic failure. My question would be 2 parts. Was there ever a significant issue prior to the modification ? And would the older model be that much less desirable if both were in equal condition ?

    Thanks for any info !
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    in a nut shell your gun is the old model with a smaller head pin near the back of the frame. Years ago some military group experienced slide failure in which the slide came off the frame & into the face of the shooter( so the story goes) it was later determined that the said group may have been ammo that should have been reserved for submachine guns .But later models are now equipped with a larger headed pin to keep the slide from coming off the frame.Your pistol may never experience this but Im pretty sure this is what the gunsmith is basing his opinion .

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    First off, I appreciate your service. Second, that beretta 92F is a fine gun. That gun shop owner was probably trying to talk you down in terms of value or just didn't know his @ss from a hole in the ground.

    What is the condition of the weapon? I assume it has the two dot (one dot front and rear) as opposed to the three dot system.



    Quote Originally Posted by XtremeVel View Post
    Have heard many stories thru the years about the change from the 92F to the 92FS, but not exactly sure what all is true.

    Recently, I looked into trading my 92F ( bought new late 1980's ) in toward something else. I was told by the dealer that it was the inferior model and he personally wouldn't shoot it ! Now, I do believe the newer FS models do have some kind of safety feature retaining the slide in case of a catastrophic failure. My question would be 2 parts. Was there ever a significant issue prior to the modification ? And would the older model be that much less desirable if both were in equal condition ?

    Thanks for any info !

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    The Beretta is a fine weapon. My brother is a cop and still carries his first issue weapon given to him 19 years ago which is the Beretta 92F. I'd like to have one if you sell it.

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    I believe the failures found in the study of the 'F' all happened after about 4000 consecutive rounds

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    The FS is a design modification done to accommodate the military after some Navy Seals ran a few thousand rounds of SMG ammo through their M-9's and experiences some catastrophic failures. IIRC, test results replicated the same failure at around 23,000 rds fired (again, with extra hot SMG ammo).

    The -F model is not functionally inferior to the -FS or unsafe in any way unless someone is planning on stress-testing it.

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    Air Force blew some up, also. They limited the guns to 5,000 rounds till they figured out why.

    The friggin ammo was HOT!!! I fired some of it when we transitioned from the Model 15s, felt like a .357 Mag in my hand. No surprise the guns were wearing out quickly. Once they started using proper ammo, the guns quit blowing up. Imagine that!

    The 92F is a fine gun. I wouldn't hesitate to shoot the darn thing for forever and a day.

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    Thanks for all the responses.

    Quote Originally Posted by stmoore View Post
    First off, I appreciate your service. Second, that beretta 92F is a fine gun. That gun shop owner was probably trying to talk you down in terms of value or just didn't know his @ss from a hole in the ground.

    What is the condition of the weapon? I assume it has the two dot (one dot front and rear) as opposed to the three dot system.
    Yes, it only has (2) dots. One thing I find odd about it tho is the gun says made in US ( Md ), but the 2 mags that came with it say made in Italy. It's in good shape ( somewhere between 1200-1500 rounds thru the years) . I personally haven't shot it for years, but do occasionally take it to the range for the wife or son to shoot. They prefer it over other guns I have. As for why I don't shoot it much, it's because I prefer getting in my trigger time with Glocks or my XD's. I can take ( 1 ) G22 or G35 out with a few barrels and shoot 9mm, .40, & .357 Sig and when I get home don't have as much to clean.
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    Supposedly the Brigadier was developed with a heavier slide to accommodate the hotter ammo and is more shooter friendly.

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