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    Why are most liberals afraid of guns?

    Nature vs. nurture surely plays some part. Their brains are probably wired in a way that makes them very untrusting of others. But let's focus on the nurturing aspect of what upbringing results in a lifelong fear of guns?

    The tradition of safe and responsible gun ownership is usually passed down from father to son, and in cultures where the father is not around, or may be a felon, this is clearly not possible. While not being taught gun safety at an early age is a detriment, I do not believe it necessarily promotes an outright fear of guns. In fact, fatherless inner city youths seem more likely to lack a healthy respect for guns (not enough fear).

    So what promotes an unhealthy fear of guns? Can anyone help explain the mentality of people like Cuomo and Bloomberg? Do you have friends or relatives like them? What makes them tick? Are they emotionally retarded, overly effeminate, or is there some other reason they do not respect the right to self defense? Did they get bullied on the playground, or were they the bully?

    Does it all boil down to the liberal hippy ideology of a utopian society? Did these people simply take too much LSD in the 70's? Or is it something more sinister, like a desire to dominate or fear of true equality? I really would like to see some scientific studies on the common backgrounds and characteristics of those who fear guns.

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    They're not afraid of guns, they're afraid of a lack of control. They can't control you, if you're armed. They will try to control whether or not you can be armed regardless of whether they feel they need to be armed for their own defense.
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    For many I have spoken with its emotions over logic. The stats dont matter, guns are scary and bad. We dont need them.
    As for the arrogant snots in office, they know whats best for us dirty little monkeys.

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    Control, ever read the quote a government should fear its people. Well sheeple arent scary

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    I know plenty of dyed in the wool conservatives that are afraid of guns and are all for more gun restrictions, and I know plenty of liberals who are avid gun enthusiasts. It's not an exclusive territory of liberals to be anti-gun, nor is it an exclusive quality of conservatives to be pro-gun. Couching it in those terms alienates a significant percentage of people who support gun rights.

    My mother who has never touched a gun in her life and was afraid of them and who is fairly liberal, recently made a donation to the NRA because as she said, she feels that even if she doesn't like guns it doesn't mean that they should be restricted. On the same token, right after the last major shooting I had a very conservative colleague who is big into hunting and owns several guns make the clear statement that we needed to have the AWB reinstated immediately to keep those evil military guns off the street, and who constantly questions why I carry a gun with me all of the time.

    I prefer to call anti-gun people anti-gun, rather than trying to apply another pejorative that doesn't have a lot to do with whether they are anti-gun or not. ANYONE who is pro-RKBA is a friend in my book.
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    Being a 'gun-enthusiast' of course does not make you a supporter of the RKBA.

    I suspect it's the projection issue. Most know if they had guns they could not control their impulses to use guns to oppress others.

    That being said, they like the status quo just fine. Until something like Rodney King comes along and they're all harping on the police. Or the US invades Iraq. THEN the guys in uniform with guns are thugs. Basically they worry less, for the most part, about the plainclothes gun-bearing thugs. Until they get mugged.

    It's hard to be a gun-grabber AND have principles.
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    Collectivists favor the group, hence the value of the masses of un-empowered. Individuals prefer power of one, and things that will enhance the individual.

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    Ignorance

    It's really simple. They're largely ignorant about guns. I mean this in a true definition of the word. They didn't grow up around guns and usually know nothing about them except what they see on tv. 99.99% of what's on tv depicts guns in a negative light so then they just form a prejudice against them. Just listen to the tv reporters and politicians when they speak about firearms. They use terms that are completely inacurate. I heard one guy use the term "multi bulleted clips". What the heck is that? They misinform the unknowing public through their ignorance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rnmcguire View Post
    It's really simple. They're largely ignorant about guns. I mean this in a true definition of the word. They didn't grow up around guns and usually know nothing about them except what they see on tv. 99.99% of what's on tv depicts guns in a negative light so then they just form a prejudice against them. Just listen to the tv reporters and politicians when they speak about firearms. They use terms that are completely inacurate. I heard one guy use the term "multi bulleted clips". What the heck is that? They misinform the unknowing public through their ignorance.
    ^^ This. It's not difficult to fear something one is ignorant about. It's not uncommon that people have no objection to banning something they are ignorant about and do not themselves own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by netsecurity View Post
    Nature vs. nurture surely plays some part. Their brains are probably wired in a way that makes them very untrusting of others. But let's focus on the nurturing aspect of what upbringing results in a lifelong fear of guns?

    The tradition of safe and responsible gun ownership is usually passed down from father to son, and in cultures where the father is not around, or may be a felon, this is clearly not possible. While not being taught gun safety at an early age is a detriment, I do not believe it necessarily promotes an outright fear of guns. In fact, fatherless inner city youths seem more likely to lack a healthy respect for guns (not enough fear).

    So what promotes an unhealthy fear of guns? Can anyone help explain the mentality of people like Cuomo and Bloomberg? Do you have friends or relatives like them? What makes them tick? Are they emotionally retarded, overly effeminate, or is there some other reason they do not respect the right to self defense? Did they get bullied on the playground, or were they the bully?

    Does it all boil down to the liberal hippy ideology of a utopian society? Did these people simply take too much LSD in the 70's? Or is it something more sinister, like a desire to dominate or fear of true equality? I really would like to see some scientific studies on the common backgrounds and characteristics of those who fear guns.
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