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  • JTScribe

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    Honore: America's in denial about gun culture

    "As a country we're in a state of denial because we've confused the right to bear arms with the right to carry arms all the time anywhere or anyplace you want," Honore told Gannett Louisiana on Monday. "We have to have a different kind of conversation in America and be prepared to speak about the politically unspeakable."

    I'm pretty sure 'bear' involves carrying if you check the dictionary.

    Also, it says he was involved in the Katrina recovery . . . is he the guy that ordered the civilian disarmament?
     

    HoughMade

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    Well, he's not alone. However, he and all with that belief disagree with the Supreme Court:

    At the time of the founding, as now, to "bear" meant to "carry."

    District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570, 584 (U.S. 2008)

    If there's one thing I've learned lately, it's that disagree with the Supreme Court is not allowed.
     

    eric001

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    I'm pretty certain that if this esteemed military hero ever had to use a gun to protect himself and/or his family...with said gun being locked up in a cabinet... he would either figure out the stupidity of his position, or Darwinism would solve his problem for us. Yet another elitist trying to argue that the Constitution doesn't apply to We The People, as he obviously thinks he knows more about what's good for us than we do.
     

    Kutnupe14

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    Honore: America's in denial about gun culture

    "As a country we're in a state of denial because we've confused the right to bear arms with the right to carry arms all the time anywhere or anyplace you want," Honore told Gannett Louisiana on Monday. "We have to have a different kind of conversation in America and be prepared to speak about the politically unspeakable."

    I'm pretty sure 'bear' involves carrying if you check the dictionary.

    Also, it says he was involved in the Katrina recovery . . . is he the guy that ordered the civilian disarmament?

    Perhaps now, but in the contemporary use of when the second amendment was drafted, I think it's open for debate.
     

    ilikeguns

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    Perhaps now, but in the contemporary use of when the second amendment was drafted, I think it's open for debate.

    At the time of the founding, as now, to "bear" meant to "carry."
    District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570, 584 (U.S. 2008)

    Quoted from Houghs post. bear is bear, now and then.
     

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    Wonder if he's interested in a conversation about high priced consulting firm fees and their value in the military budget. Everybody's got an opinion.
     

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    At the time of the founding, as now, to "bear" meant to "carry."
    District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570, 584 (U.S. 2008)

    Quoted from Houghs post. bear is bear, now and then.

    Yeah, I knew that's what the USSC said, and while the buck stops there, they are not exactly infallible. I think the word could certainly be seen as meaning the differently, like how its used in the Declaration.
     

    eldirector

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    How was it used differently in the Declaration? I assume you mean "of Independence". The only instance I can find has essentially the same meaning.

    A quick entomology lookup, and the meaning of "bear" has been pretty consistent for more than 2 thousand years.

    'Course, I'm not an entomologist. Maybe I am missing something...
     

    Dosproduction

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    Yeah it is not debatable the right to bear arms means the right to carry arms. You have to imagine back when it was written everyone hunted for food. Almost everyone had to carry arms just to eat. Also this amendment was put in place because of the british trying to confiscate arms. The battle of Lexington and Concord. The british where trying to take the weapons hidden at concord. It is about as cut and dry as it gets. What is the real question is how the government misinterprets "shall NOT infringe" How can you mess that one up?
     

    IndyDave1776

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    Yeah it is not debatable the right to bear arms means the right to carry arms. You have to imagine back when it was written everyone hunted for food. Almost everyone had to carry arms just to eat. Also this amendment was put in place because of the british trying to confiscate arms. The battle of Lexington and Concord. The british where trying to take the weapons hidden at concord. It is about as cut and dry as it gets. What is the real question is how the government misinterprets "shall NOT infringe" How can you mess that one up?

    I believe it is called willful ignorance.
     

    spencer rifle

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    How was it used differently in the Declaration? I assume you mean "of Independence". The only instance I can find has essentially the same meaning.

    A quick entomology lookup, and the meaning of "bear" has been pretty consistent for more than 2 thousand years.

    'Course, I'm not an entomologist. Maybe I am missing something...
    Looking up stuff about insects won't help here - they have no rights. Maybe you meant etymology?

    Also, it says "the people" have the right, not "the government" or "the militia."
     
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    Bfish

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    I read this article the other day and it just left me shaking my head... For some reason it will load the letter the guy wrote but not the generals responses on TTAG webpage.
     

    KUJO2388

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    Wonder if he's interested in a conversation about high priced consulting firm fees and their value in the military budget. Everybody's got an opinion.

    I am sure he is all for that contract fee. Just because you became a General doesn't mean you know everything. He is proof of this.
     

    2A_Tom

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    I fear the general is not familiar with the four rules and state law, which constitute my rules of engagement.

    "if everyone in movie had a gun as some politicians suggested and one person started shooting after first rounds went off you could have multiple friendly fire KIA and WIA
    In this gun fight there are no rules of engagement," [sic] LT General Russel Honore (Ret)

    I sincerely hope the general never has a home invasion or an incident while he is out with his grand kids.

    "I have loaded guns in my home in secure area , inside the intent of the law and but I refuse to take a gun with me to take my grandkids to get ice cream" [sic] LT General Russel Honore (Ret)
     

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